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  • #21
    Originally posted by RunW/Knives View Post
    No, No he didn't fight guys "With a lot of experience".

    Jr is knocking out the same type guys Malignaggi won decisions over. The only two names that Malignaggi has fought that would put him ahead of Jr in the quality of opposition department, are Cotto and Ndou.

    1 is a journeyman slugger tailor made, the other beat him up really bad.

    People are over inflating Malignaggi's resume just to degrade Jr's.
    same type of guys. jr opponents are coming in fighting him with 3, 4 straight loses. losing 3 of 6 going in to that fight. fighting on a couple of weeks notice. people arent inflating paulies resume to rip on jr. people just see the difference

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    • #22
      This site cares too much about resume than actual skill.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Spontaneous View Post
        This site cares too much about resume than actual skill.
        speak for others but not me. im saying paulie is to skilled, slick and too talented for jr

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        • #24
          Originally posted by lil chico 112 View Post
          speak for others but not me. im saying paulie is to skilled, slick and too talented for jr
          I am speaking for others. Someone praises a boxer and tons of people come in like "who has he fought? a bunch of cans? he sucks!!!111!"

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Spontaneous View Post
            I am speaking for others. Someone praises a boxer and tons of people come in like "who has he fought? a bunch of cans? he sucks!!!111!"
            of course people are gonna say that. its a given. people arent just gonna say "wow that guy is skilled" and thats it. there are questions to be answered

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            • #26
              Let's quit bringing race and or ethnicity into the subject. I have plenty admiration and respect for fighters like Chavez sr, Sal Sanchez, Duran, Arguello, Gavilan ,Trinidad, Rivera..Benitez etc...
              There's no reason to HATE on latin fighters.
              That being said - Chavez jr needs to start challenging himself by fighting better opposition and enough with fighting cab drivers. Age? has nothing to do with it. Examples: Wilfred Benitez won his first Title at 17... Floyd Patterson won the WORLD Title at 21.. Tyson at 21, Vargas at 21, DeLahoya won two titles in two different divisions at 21 etc etc Those guys didn't ruin their careers by winning titles at an early age. Vargas ruined his career by taking on elite champions one after the other without taking tune up fights.
              But anyway, Age is not the case here and neither is him not fighting for titles. He can't fight for titles because quite frankly he doesn't look ready. Why?? He's not fighting decent enough good opponents to get him there.
              Chavez jr needs to be tested and challenged every once in awhlie.
              Chavez jr has been a professional now for two years going on three.
              For his own good, he needs to raise the level on the quality of oppostion he's fighting. Start fighting ex champs or up and coming prospects. There is where he will find the experience and the stripes he needs.
              Bums and Cab drivers are only good at first to get self confidence and some self recognition. He should be fighting guys like Alfonso Gomez, Pauli Malinaggi, Teddy Reid, Eduardo Snachez, and then Carlos Baldomir in the end before taking on the Big guys on top. It only took Paul Malignaggi 18 fights before he hit his first title fight and it only took Cotto 13 fights before his...Chavez jr already fought 33 guys and he's still not even ready. I don't blame Chavez jr..I blame his corner.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Tusc9969 View Post
                Let's quit bringing race and or ethnicity into the subject. I have plenty admiration and respect for fighters like Chavez sr, Sal Sanchez, Duran, Arguello, Gavilan ,Trinidad, Rivera..Benitez etc...
                There's no reason to HATE on latin fighters.
                That being said - Chavez jr needs to start challenging himself by fighting better opposition and enough with fighting cab drivers. Age? has nothing to do with it. Examples: Wilfred Benitez won his first Title at 17... Floyd Patterson won the WORLD Title at 21.. Tyson at 21, Vargas at 21, DeLahoya won two titles in two different divisions at 21 etc etc Those guys didn't ruin their careers by winning titles at an early age. Vargas ruined his career by taking on elite champions one after the other without taking tune up fights.
                But anyway, Age is not the case here and neither is him not fighting for titles. He can't fight for titles because quite frankly he doesn't look ready. Why?? He's not fighting decent enough good opponents to get him there.
                Chavez jr needs to be tested and challenged every once in awhlie.
                Chavez jr has been a professional now for two years going on three.
                For his own good, he needs to raise the level on the quality of oppostion he's fighting. Start fighting ex champs or up and coming prospects. There is where he will find the experience and the stripes he needs.
                Bums and Cab drivers are only good at first to get self confidence and some self recognition. He should be fighting guys like Alfonso Gomez, Pauli Malinaggi, Teddy Reid, Eduardo Snachez, and then Carlos Baldomir in the end before taking on the Big guys on top. It only took Paul Malignaggi 18 fights before he hit his first title fight and it only took Cotto 13 fights before his...Chavez jr already fought 33 guys and he's still not even ready. I don't blame Chavez jr..I blame his corner.
                great post man. age has nothing to do with it. so many fighters turn pro at a young age. he has 33 wins. its time to step up. its not about how many wins its bout quality wins. i can build up my career by fighting bums and look good doing it. but what happens if i build my career up so much like jr and fight someone worth fighting and get blitzed in a couple of rounds. those wins before that dont mean ****

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                • #28
                  i think he has the skills... its a matter of time imo jcc ftw 0.o

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                  • #29
                    great post man. age has nothing to do with it. so many fighters turn pro at a young age. he has 33 wins. its time to step up. its not about how many wins its bout quality wins. i can build up my career by fighting bums and look good doing it. but what happens if i build my career up so much like jr and fight someone worth fighting and get blitzed in a couple of rounds. those wins before that dont mean ****
                    Exactly... Prince Naseem Hamed sounds familiar? Prince might've had better opposition than Chavez jr but my point is Prince wasn't ready for the likes of Barrera. It's happend to Prince and plenty other boxers out there. They try to build up their record and then when it comes down to fighting a real opponent...boom. Ray Leonard doesn't have a large impressive record but he fought the best and his resume' speaks for itself. My point is, records only look good with credible good opponents attached to them.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by xcaret View Post
                      So true, Vargas could've done so much better if he would've taken it easy.

                      And the pinoys should stfu about him too cause Bautista is also like 21 and his ass is gonna get his ass whooped on Saturday, and whats the excuse gonna be? That he was TOO GREEN... lol
                      When the fakk are you going to post without the word pinoy or Pacman on it?

                      You must dream pinoy everynight. Next time you're in town I'll invite you to a pinoy party.......we are roasting a Chihuahua.

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