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  • rambov
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    #11
    I think a lot of people just don't get this

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    • OptimusWolf
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      #12
      you're telling us the crowd doesn't matter and that we "should" appreciate things. Can't you see the hypocrisy there..... people like what they like, and boxing is a sport that is focused around guys punching each other, its only natural that guys that stand and trade will be popular.

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      • Dirt E Gomez
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        #13
        Originally posted by Rockin'
        Hit and dont be hit, that is the game. Sure the crowd loves the brawls but the purest just loves the art. Of the blows that send them to the canvas as well as the blows that were masterfully slipped and countered, the art is there. People tend to believe that boxing is all about the fists and who hits harder, they never seem to comprehend that the feet work with the fists and are just as important.....................Rockin'
        That's from the athletes standpoint, but that's not the way the modern world works. Sports exist for the entertainment of fans. While this was not the original intention of sports, but rather it is what they've evolved into. Purists don't keep sports in the limelight and have athletes make millions of dollars... the common fans do. When they're no longer ammused then there goes the money, there goes the best competitors, and there goes the sport. It's a balance which can be hard to keep... especially when dealing with the sport of boxing.

        While I, and a decent handful of others, enjoy a chess match of a boxing match... we wont keep a sport alive... and as much as I love a chess match I'd rather see 2 boxer/punchers go at it for 12 rounds than two pure boxers. I'm a fan of the sport but I'm still a fan of entertainment first and foremost.

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        • Unseen
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          #14
          pleasing the crowd pays the bill cuz they will pay for ppv or go to the match. if you fight to win, and lose your fans, then you aint making no bucks. which world famous boxer wants to box for less money?

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          • rambov
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            #15
            Originally posted by OptimusWolf
            you're telling us the crowd doesn't matter and that we "should" appreciate things. Can't you see the hypocrisy there..... people like what they like, and boxing is a sport that is focused around guys punching each other, its only natural that guys that stand and trade will be popular.
            No.....I am telling you that your #1 boxer is not getting punched constantly in the head so that he can please you. Actually his coach has to go over with him every 5 minutes that he needs to remain focused and block out the noise.

            And I am reminding you of your obligation as a "boxing Fan". You can always watch UFC.................

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            • Rockin'
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              #16
              Originally posted by Dirt E Gomez
              That's from the athletes standpoint, but that's not the way the modern world works. Sports exist for the entertainment of fans. While this was not the original intention of sports, but rather it is what they've evolved into. Purists don't keep sports in the limelight and have athletes make millions of dollars... the common fans do. When they're no longer ammused then there goes the money, there goes the best competitors, and there goes the sport. It's a balance which can be hard to keep... especially when dealing with the sport of boxing.
              All true.

              Its just that for a baseball player to be entertaining they just have to slide head first a few timesand dive for some balls. In the ring you have to stand hard in the trenches and keep digging. The baseball player is wiped off in the dug out and the fighter is stitched up in the locker room.

              They will never understand................Rockin'

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              • Dirt E Gomez
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                #17
                Originally posted by rambov
                No.....I am telling you that your #1 boxer is not getting punched constantly in the head so that he can please you. Actually his coach has to go over with him every 5 minutes that he needs to remain focused and block out the noise.

                And I am reminding you of your obligation as a "boxing Fan". You can always watch UFC.................
                And it's the elitist attitude like that.... that can end up hurting boxing. It's a pompous attitude that if you don't see the glory in the dance around the ring then you don't truly appreciate boxing. I'm not asking everything become a slugfest.... but the more Spinxs of the boxing world we have to deal with the worse off the sport becomes.

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                • Grappler_Baki60
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Dirt E Gomez
                  That's from the athletes standpoint, but that's not the way the modern world works. Sports exist for the entertainment of fans. While this was not the original intention of sports, but rather it is what they've evolved into. Purists don't keep sports in the limelight and have athletes make millions of dollars... the common fans do. When they're no longer ammused then there goes the money, there goes the best competitors, and there goes the sport. It's a balance which can be hard to keep... especially when dealing with the sport of boxing.
                  I uderstand that most boxing fan like to see in-fights. But we only have a few. They may not be that Duran JCC Hagler type but lets see what happens. It's just crazy how people dont get entertained by outboxers.

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                  • deuce_drop
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                    #19
                    crowd pleasing is important, if you don't please the crowd and no one wants to watch you then you aren't going to get much support and you wont be getting any good deals coming to your table. (crowd pleasing is marketing yourself with your goods,skill,talent,etc.)

                    yeah every fighter wants to win, well at least you'd think that, but the fact of the matter is, if your fights stink and aren't pleasing to the eye, they you got a **** product that no one will pay for. it's plain and simple boxing is a sport that is involved in the Entertainment business and if the fans aren't entertained then the powers that be aren't going to have you back until you are.

                    they'll keep you off the air unless it's avoidable and no one will want to sign you except for the fact that they can use you to get some kind of money from or out of you.

                    crowd pleasing is more along the lines of being remarkable at some or one of the many things that make boxing great, if you aren't remarkable in any or one of the many aspects to boxing, you are not crowd pleasing. and i for one don't want to see someone inside the ring that stinks up the place. andre dirrell comes to mind, if he fights all his fights like he did against curtis stevens, you can have him, because although he might be talented he sure didn't show it, other than the fact that he doesn't engage in any action and likes to turn his back and walk around the ring.

                    and as for zab being a crowd pleasing fighter, zab is more of a show off then trying to please the crowd. i will give zab credit, he does give you something to watch when he fights, but he's more of a show off than anything. especially when he looks to see who is in the front row or so and then gets clocked, or he's telling the ref to "don't play with matches"

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                    • tredh
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                      #20
                      Most of yall don't know what you think you know. If you look back at the history of boxing which people have been the most famous out the boxing stars the pure boxers or the brawlers? More pure boxers have been the face of boxing than pure brawlers.

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