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How In The ****, I say How In The **** could you guys think that was a good stoppage? I just saw the fight. I cant believe everyone on here said that they agreed with the stoppage. That was complete B.S.
I didnt understand what you guys were saying 1st. The whole time I thought you meant that Marquez got dropped, got up at like 8, and the ref stopped it because he didnt like the way he responded to him. I had no ideal that it happened this way. We got all these so called warrior fans on here and you think that was a good stoppage?
1st off that ****in hook wasnt even that hard. He got dropped but he really wasnt hurt at all. He popped right back up. He probally was a little buzzed but its not like Vasquez rocked him or anything. That was a light punch that just caught him at the wrong time. Marquez was doing very good at the end of round 5. Then after the knock down, Vasquez jumped on him but Marquez was still throwing back. Sure he was slightly wobbly but no way he was at the level where the fight shouldve been stopped.
Marquez is a warrior and deserved the benefit. Even if he was a ****in bum he shouldve went on. That wasnt that special. Guess what else? I agree 100% with Al Bernstien. A 100%. Everything I felt was what he felt. He said that Vasquez still might have knocked him out but it was not at the level where it shouldve been stopped yet and Marquez was still throwing back and functioning. I agree with all of that. Obviously, Vasquez had the upper hand and may have finished him but it wouldnt had been a shock to me at all if Marquez came back. Not at all. You see fighters hurt like that all the time and all they need is just a second to gather themselves. Also, Marquez is a big time puncher who had already hurt Vasquez. He easily couldve caught him while he was coming in. I cant believe all you Mexican Warriors and all you guys who love blood & guts thought that was a great stoppage. It was downright horrible. Like Bernstien said, Garcia paniced and there was no need for that at all.
When Vasquez dropped him it wasnt that hard of a punch, Marquez got right back up, and looked fine. Why then would you stop it when the guy is throwing back? Sure he was on his heels but so what. Vasquez never did land that one punch to rock him again. He deserved far better then that. Far better. He's a Champ and a ****in warrior. Dont come on here talking that crazy **** to me like, "what do you want them to do, kill eachother"? Did you guys watch the 1st 5 rounds and there 1st fight? This is there style. They can handle it. Again, Marquez was not on deaths door. Im not taking anything away from Vasquez. I like both of them and I was rooting for Vasquez but Raf deserved to go on. Listen at what Al said. Then listen at what Raffy said after the fight? He's not the type of guy to lie just to make himself look good. If he knew he was finished then he wouldve said it. He might not have said it like that but he wouldve said, "the ref had a decision to make, I dont agree with it but its his call". Instead, he said that it was a bad stoppage. He was shocked at the end. My point is that Vasquez hit him much harder then that during the fight. These guys take hits. They are going to get shook and are going to get on there heels but what makes them great is that they can come back.
This fight was so ****in anticlimatic and Im sick of that **** in boxing. **** the FOTY, we were robbed. It couldve been a real FOTY with Raffy coming back to change that fight. It wouldnt even had took much. This was not Chico-Castillo or alot of other fights where the guy is dead. He was there. He was a little shakey but he's been there many times before. The bottom line is that he wasnt that bad, Vasquez wasnt hitting him with alot of hard shots, and Raffy was throwing back. That stoppage was horrible and you could see that the ref couldnt wait to jump in. That ruined the whole fight in my book. I cant believe that the Marquez fans even accept that ending. There is no way that someone could convince me that Marquez had no shot of coming back. No way. If you think Vasquez wouldve stopped him then I can live with that but you cant tell me that Raffy had no chance of coming back. I dont even want to call it coming back because I think he was just rocked, a little shakey, and wouldve got right back to fighting. It happeneds all the time. He was not as bad off as people say. Ive seen Cotto, Floyd, and a ton of other guys worst off then that and there was no stoppage. Just look at his brother. This guy probally wouldve stopped the Pac-Marquez fight in the 1st round. It was the same thing. Look at Gatti-Ward. He wouldve stopped that 1st fight 10 times. They were hurt like this a bunch of times and they fought on.
Guys get like this and come back all the time, e****ally in these type of fights, and e****ally when you have a rep like Marquez. That was B.S. He was hurt but he wasnt finished yet. The reason Im this hyped up about it because it was a total shock to me after what I read on these boards. Nearly all of you said it was a good stoppage. That was one of the worst Ive ever seen. You have to know the type of fight it is, who is fighting, and whats at stake. You treat guys like this different because there whole style is like this. Both this fight and the 1st one went back & forths with big punches and guys getting rocked. Its going to happened every time but you know when a guys done or not and he wasnt yet. Its not like Vasquez was Baldy or Gomez vs Gatti. The fight was dead close and going back & forths the whole time. You could argure that right before that Marquez was back to getting the best of him. Horrible stoppage and from a Mexican ref makes it even worst. I think alot of you need to watch it again and probally the whole fight because the ending did not fit with that fight at all. There's no way you couldve watched that fight and not thought that it was a premature stoppage. Dont watch the instant replay **** either because thats misleading. Just watch the fight itself. Rewatch it and I bet you change your mind
I didnt understand what you guys were saying 1st. The whole time I thought you meant that Marquez got dropped, got up at like 8, and the ref stopped it because he didnt like the way he responded to him. I had no ideal that it happened this way. We got all these so called warrior fans on here and you think that was a good stoppage?
1st off that ****in hook wasnt even that hard. He got dropped but he really wasnt hurt at all. He popped right back up. He probally was a little buzzed but its not like Vasquez rocked him or anything. That was a light punch that just caught him at the wrong time. Marquez was doing very good at the end of round 5. Then after the knock down, Vasquez jumped on him but Marquez was still throwing back. Sure he was slightly wobbly but no way he was at the level where the fight shouldve been stopped.
Marquez is a warrior and deserved the benefit. Even if he was a ****in bum he shouldve went on. That wasnt that special. Guess what else? I agree 100% with Al Bernstien. A 100%. Everything I felt was what he felt. He said that Vasquez still might have knocked him out but it was not at the level where it shouldve been stopped yet and Marquez was still throwing back and functioning. I agree with all of that. Obviously, Vasquez had the upper hand and may have finished him but it wouldnt had been a shock to me at all if Marquez came back. Not at all. You see fighters hurt like that all the time and all they need is just a second to gather themselves. Also, Marquez is a big time puncher who had already hurt Vasquez. He easily couldve caught him while he was coming in. I cant believe all you Mexican Warriors and all you guys who love blood & guts thought that was a great stoppage. It was downright horrible. Like Bernstien said, Garcia paniced and there was no need for that at all.
When Vasquez dropped him it wasnt that hard of a punch, Marquez got right back up, and looked fine. Why then would you stop it when the guy is throwing back? Sure he was on his heels but so what. Vasquez never did land that one punch to rock him again. He deserved far better then that. Far better. He's a Champ and a ****in warrior. Dont come on here talking that crazy **** to me like, "what do you want them to do, kill eachother"? Did you guys watch the 1st 5 rounds and there 1st fight? This is there style. They can handle it. Again, Marquez was not on deaths door. Im not taking anything away from Vasquez. I like both of them and I was rooting for Vasquez but Raf deserved to go on. Listen at what Al said. Then listen at what Raffy said after the fight? He's not the type of guy to lie just to make himself look good. If he knew he was finished then he wouldve said it. He might not have said it like that but he wouldve said, "the ref had a decision to make, I dont agree with it but its his call". Instead, he said that it was a bad stoppage. He was shocked at the end. My point is that Vasquez hit him much harder then that during the fight. These guys take hits. They are going to get shook and are going to get on there heels but what makes them great is that they can come back.
This fight was so ****in anticlimatic and Im sick of that **** in boxing. **** the FOTY, we were robbed. It couldve been a real FOTY with Raffy coming back to change that fight. It wouldnt even had took much. This was not Chico-Castillo or alot of other fights where the guy is dead. He was there. He was a little shakey but he's been there many times before. The bottom line is that he wasnt that bad, Vasquez wasnt hitting him with alot of hard shots, and Raffy was throwing back. That stoppage was horrible and you could see that the ref couldnt wait to jump in. That ruined the whole fight in my book. I cant believe that the Marquez fans even accept that ending. There is no way that someone could convince me that Marquez had no shot of coming back. No way. If you think Vasquez wouldve stopped him then I can live with that but you cant tell me that Raffy had no chance of coming back. I dont even want to call it coming back because I think he was just rocked, a little shakey, and wouldve got right back to fighting. It happeneds all the time. He was not as bad off as people say. Ive seen Cotto, Floyd, and a ton of other guys worst off then that and there was no stoppage. Just look at his brother. This guy probally wouldve stopped the Pac-Marquez fight in the 1st round. It was the same thing. Look at Gatti-Ward. He wouldve stopped that 1st fight 10 times. They were hurt like this a bunch of times and they fought on.
Guys get like this and come back all the time, e****ally in these type of fights, and e****ally when you have a rep like Marquez. That was B.S. He was hurt but he wasnt finished yet. The reason Im this hyped up about it because it was a total shock to me after what I read on these boards. Nearly all of you said it was a good stoppage. That was one of the worst Ive ever seen. You have to know the type of fight it is, who is fighting, and whats at stake. You treat guys like this different because there whole style is like this. Both this fight and the 1st one went back & forths with big punches and guys getting rocked. Its going to happened every time but you know when a guys done or not and he wasnt yet. Its not like Vasquez was Baldy or Gomez vs Gatti. The fight was dead close and going back & forths the whole time. You could argure that right before that Marquez was back to getting the best of him. Horrible stoppage and from a Mexican ref makes it even worst. I think alot of you need to watch it again and probally the whole fight because the ending did not fit with that fight at all. There's no way you couldve watched that fight and not thought that it was a premature stoppage. Dont watch the instant replay **** either because thats misleading. Just watch the fight itself. Rewatch it and I bet you change your mind
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