What does Hatton have to do against Floyd to earn Americas respect

[squealpiggy]

The difference for me between Hatton's Tszyu win and Mayweather's Delahoya win is the size differential. Delahoya is a 154 guy. The other three are 140 guys.

So, the question I ask myself is: could Mayweather have beaten Tszyu? and could Hatton have beaten Delahoya?

Mayweather couldn't have beaten Tszyu the way Hatton did. You're moving the goalposts to bring size into it. Mayweather was favourite to beat De La Hoya. Hatton was favoured to get his block knocked off by Tszyu.

[donatopulla]

lol why is this fight even being debated?? Would Mayweather of struggled vs Collazo?? Mayweather is going to blow through Hatton with ease. Hatton is buying into the hype that pressure and dirty dactics will beat PBF. Guess what?? Hatton is slow, unpolished, and no where near the skilled technician that PBF is. I don't even like PBF, but he will mop the floor with Hatton without even breaking a sweat. Quit talking about Kostya, he was old and over the hill. If the fight was in the U.S. Hatton would've been dq'd because that fight was a wwe wrestling match, not boxing. Hatton=overrated Floyd=#1 P4P

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Mayweather couldn't have beaten Tszyu the way Hatton did. You're moving the goalposts to bring size into it. Mayweather was favourite to beat De La Hoya. Hatton was favoured to get his block knocked off by Tszyu.

I'm asking you two direct questions, Squeal.

1) would mayweather have beaten Zoo?

2) Would hatton have beaten ODLH?

[squealpiggy]

lol why is this fight even being debated?? Would Mayweather of struggled vs Collazo?? Mayweather is going to blow through Hatton with ease. Hatton is buying into the hype that pressure and dirty dactics will beat PBF. Guess what?? Hatton is slow, unpolished, and no where near the skilled technician that PBF is. I don't even like PBF, but he will mop the floor with Hatton without even breaking a sweat. Quit talking about Kostya, he was old and over the hill. If the fight was in the U.S. Hatton would've been dq'd because that fight was a wwe wrestling match, not boxing. Hatton=overrated Floyd=#1 P4P

There's a fair bit of nonsense in your post here. Let's tackle them:

Mayweather would not have struggled against Collazo, no. Mayweather wouldn't have taken such a risky fight at such short notice, so it would never have happened. Hatton struggled but still won against a guy who held all the aces. Hatton's worst ever performance was a unanimous decision victory, so he's doing alright.

Hatton isn't slow and unpolished. Sure, compare him to a fighter as fast and as polished as Mayweather and of course he'll look tarnished. Fact is that Hatton is a world class boxer and an elite fighter.

Finally I'm tired of hearing that Hatton would have been disqualified for rough-housing Tszyu had the fight been in the US. There really is nothing in the history of boxing that would suggest that roughness and holding happens or is permitted more in Britain than in the US. Ken Buchanan was in New York when he got his nuts busted by Roberto Duran. Joe Louis destroyed Max Schmeling with a kidney punch, an illegal blow in Europe but not in the US. Perhaps the dirtiest fighter in the history of the sport, Harry Greb, was American and fought almost every single one of his fights in the US, and there have been two recent high profile bouts in the US and featuring US boxers which have involved an inordinate amount of holding, Williams - Margarito and Hopkins - Wright.

The reason the fight is being debated is that it is debatable. Floyd is not superhuman. He's very very good but he's not unbeatable. Noone is.

[squealpiggy]

I'm asking you two direct questions, Squeal.

1) would mayweather have beaten Zoo?

2) Would hatton have beaten ODLH?

Mayweather may or may not have beaten Chester Zoo. He wouldn't have stopped Chester Zoo though. He would possibly have been slight favourite, not massive underdog.

Hatton may or may not have beaten De La Hoya. He could beat him through outworkinghim in the latter half of the fight, but he wouldn't be the favourite like Mayweather was.

[*2TOUGH*]

Please tell me the fight style that you believe that Hatton will use that will make him successful against Mayweather.

does he look like Billy Graham?

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

The reason the fight is being debated is that it is debatable. Floyd is not superhuman. He's very very good but he's not unbeatable. Noone is.

If Hatton is across the ring, he might as well be. Watch. PBF will look like a friggin' god in there. Ricky is too limited. The hattons know it. That is why they ran from this fight for so long.

What's annoying is that this fight is only going to cement (in Floyd's mind) his GOAT claims. After Floyd brutalizes Hatton, his already outsized ego will jump to new heights.

I would rather see Floyd fight real competition: Mosley, Cotto, Williams, Forrest...even Spinks.

[*2TOUGH*]

So, the question I ask myself is: could Mayweather have beaten Tszyu? and could Hatton have beaten Delahoya?

no TRIANGLE theory is a piece of bollocks

[Guest]

I'm asking you two direct questions, Squeal.

1) would mayweather have beaten Zoo?

2) Would hatton have beaten ODLH?

1. Mayweather Tszyu would have been a great fight. Tszyu was so good against slick boxers.

2. DLH would toy with Hatton. If you think Hatton has a shot, you must think Collazo is better than DLH...

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

no TRIANGLE theory is a piece of bollocks

That wasn't a triangle theory.

Please refer to post #77. We were discussing the relative (individual) merits of those fighters' wins. We were comparing individual wins.

A triangle theory is saying that "Mayweather beat Oscar and Oscar can beat Hatton so therefore Mayweather can beat Hatton". I don't subscribe to those either.

But thanks for your unfounded criticism.