The Greatest Fighter Of All Time
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Ray-Jones is a bad comparison head to head. Rob's best was 147 but he carried to 160 until the first retirement; Jones best was above 160. Jones best day at middle, Robinson beats him because Ray was seasoned and Roy was still developing. Serious; you're comparing a guy whose best wins at 160 were Castro and an evolving Hopkins. Robinson at 160 (the one who went upside LaMotta and Turpin) was a peak killer. So then it's an issue of who was better P4P and there's really no case for anyone besides Rob ever. He faced SIXTEEN current/former/future UNDISPUTED World champs and had like 24 wins; that doesn't even include top ten cats like Jackie Wilson and Castellani. Roy would have had to skip all the junk (like just about every defense at 168) and unify another division to really get in the race.
Edit: Here are the exact figures:
Robinson faced: Angott, Servo, Zivic, Lamotta, Armstrong, Gavilan, Olson, Turpin, Graziano, Maxim, Fullmer, Basilio, Pender, Downes, Dupas, Giardello
Against that group, he went 24-10-1 with 16 KOs and was stopped once. Five of the losses were after the age of 35. Ridiculous numbersLast edited by crold1; 07-28-2007, 12:28 AM.Comment
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Sugar Ray Robinson is the greatest fighter to ever lace up a pair of gloves. Ali wanted to be just like him. he had over 170 wins and over 100 by knockout. he had everything. knockout power, great speed, footwork, stamina and a concrete chin. He was the first pound for pound champion. enuff saidComment
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Let's not forget though that there ARE other fighters in the discussion. Hell Sam Langford is for sure. Here's the World champs/future HOFers Langford faced:
Gans, Walcott, Jeanette, J. Johnson, Dixie Kid, Ketchell, McVea, O'Brien, Wills, Norfolk, Godfrey, Flowers
Posted a mark of, including three newspaper wins, get this: 21-19-16(draws or NC's) with 12 KOs and only stopped three times against that core group. That's a list that includes a top tenner, arguably, in every class from 135-heavyweight.Comment
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Each generation had it's greatest boxer:
20's Gene Tunney or Jack Dempsey
30's Joe Louis
40's Sugar Ray Robinson
50's Rocky Marciano
60's Muhammed AliComment
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