Should Roid Jones Jr's resume be erased from boxing for cheating?

[IMDAZED]

Look I'm not a hater of anybody and I won't discredit RJJ as a fighter because he accomplished a lot. IMO he was overrated and he always priced himself out of the real big fights. I'm not talking about when he was dominating 160, I mean as he moved up to 175. A Hopkins rematch, Trinidad, the list goes on and on. The only reason he fought Tarver is because he thought he was a bum. Glen Johnson?? As if anybody thought he would win (I actually did because Roy is sloppy now and has a weak chin and heart)...still he was a great fighter.

To say he is better Hopkins then is absolutely ******ed. Hopkins fought RJJ in 1993 when Hopkins was still green, give me a break. I don't give a **** if he won 8-4 7-5 12-0 I don't care. Hopkins was green and not even close to scratching the potential of the fighter he became. Hopkins would've mopped the floor with RJJ in a rematch and still would. Why won't RJJ fight him now?? Exactly, the same reason he wouldn't fight him after he dismantled Trinidad. Hopkins has a better legacy, **** P4P, Hopkins had 20 title defenses and has beat up guys like Trinidad, DLH, Tarver, Johnson etc. His resume is a lot more impressive then RJJ. The haters may be dumb, but the ****riders are even worse.

Either you are misinformed or a hater. I love Hopkins - among his generation, I rank him right behind Jones. But this "Hopkins was green argument" is pretty ridiculous. He was the #1 ranked contender when he fought Roy, Roy was #2. Furthermore, Hopkins didn't lose for another twelve years (and some feel he still hasn't). I mean, how green was he? So green that nobody else could beat him? It's just a mere coincidence that Roy was the only guy who beat him in that span?

I'd also like to add that while many make the case that Hops was green (an excuse if I've ever heard one), some ignore that Jones fought with an injured right. But I'm not in the business of making excuses for fighters. I will say this - Jones wasn't a complete fighter then either. In fact, I'd say he was pretty green himself. Look at his fight against Hopkins and compare to fights three-four years down the line (since that's what you're doing with BHop). Wouldn't you say his style changed A LOT? Yeah, thought so.

Finally, can you offer some real substance as to how Roy was overrated? Now that we've gotten over that excuse for Hopkins. Next, you're going to tell me that Toney was weight-drained, right? And seriously, did you even watch Hopkins-Jones? Roy beat him primarily with a JAB. For those who think he had no fundamentals.

[kayjay]

Did he enjoy cheating against the legendary Hopkins with his roids? Hopkins is legit, he didn't need roids. Give Hopkins a rematch, and this time don't take your roids!!!

So you're saying Jones took steroids before fighting Hopkins? That's about the time you were born, right?

[Run]

Nothing to see here folks, move on.



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[danny stash]

Did he enjoy cheating against the legendary Hopkins with his roids? Hopkins is legit, he didn't need roids. Give Hopkins a rematch, and this time don't take your roids!!!

Elite you do a wonderful job of making people hate you. You suck...get a life loser

[McNulty]

Yeah, I was wrong. I admit it. Big deal. Doesn't change the fact that it was a close fight. Even if you sweep all rounds, if you BARELY won the rounds, it still means the fight was closely contested.

Ahhh...C-Drone edited his post. It originally looked like this:

Yeah, I was wrong. I admit it. Big deal.

I was actually gonna spread some good Karma for you being man enough to admit defeat...but now? Pah.

Kid...listen to my words. RJj won twice as many rounds. It was not a close fight. I've seen it about 4-5x.

The only idiot contesting it is you.

[McNulty]

Look I'm not a hater of anybody and I won't discredit RJJ as a fighter because he accomplished a lot. IMO he was overrated and he always priced himself out of the real big fights. I'm not talking about when he was dominating 160, I mean as he moved up to 175. A Hopkins rematch, Trinidad, the list goes on and on. The only reason he fought Tarver is because he thought he was a bum. Glen Johnson?? As if anybody thought he would win (I actually did because Roy is sloppy now and has a weak chin and heart)...still he was a great fighter.

To say he is better Hopkins then is absolutely ******ed. Hopkins fought RJJ in 1993 when Hopkins was still green, give me a break. I don't give a **** if he won 8-4 7-5 12-0 I don't care.

So If there final score card was 120-108, you'de still think it was close?
The only reason RJj fought Tarver is cuz Tarver heckled him @ a press conference and got pretty loud. RJj's not a punk.
How did RJj price himself out? He was champ! He didnt price himself out against Darius, so dont even start. Darius straight refused the fight.

Hopkins was green and not even close to scratching the potential of the fighter he became. Hopkins would've mopped the floor with RJJ in a rematch and still would. Why won't RJJ fight him now?? Exactly, the same reason he wouldn't fight him after he dismantled Trinidad. Hopkins has a better legacy, **** P4P, Hopkins had 20 title defenses and has beat up guys like Trinidad, DLH, Tarver, Johnson etc. His resume is a lot more impressive then RJJ. The haters may be dumb, but the ****riders are even worse.

Hops was green? He was 22-1 when he fought RJj and RJj was 21-0. BHop had more fights...lol. BHop hasnt fought as good as he did in that fight either. He was all over Jones **** for 12 rounds. He doesnt and hasnt fought like since. After losing to Roy, Hops copped his style of countering and being slick. Thank Roy for the Bernard of today.

Hops has a better legacy? What has he done that bigger than being the 1st middleweight to become HW champ in 106 years? HUH? Spreckinzee McNulty?

[boski]

Did he enjoy cheating against the legendary Hopkins with his roids? Hopkins is legit, he didn't need roids. Give Hopkins a rematch, and this time don't take your roids!!!

You are a moron.

[me2007]

his career should be erased. The man is a cheat and is a bad example to anyone.

People need to stop using the 'you dont know anything about roids' argument to counter the fact that RJJ was a juicer.

you dont need to know anything about roids to know that they are a banned substance and taking them is cheating.

Toney and RJJ are cheaters who should be thrown out of the sport.

[robjr]

his career should be erased. The man is a cheat and is a bad example to anyone.

People need to stop using the 'you dont know anything about roids' argument to counter the fact that RJJ was a juicer.

you dont need to know anything about roids to know that they are a banned substance and taking them is cheating.

Toney and RJJ are cheaters who should be thrown out of the sport.

theres no proof moron...

[Slotff]

Ya'll must have forgot, the best pound for pound is his, he hit Percy Harris with 10 hooks at one time.