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    #51
    Originally posted by mECHsLAVE
    I mean, does anyone admit to using steroids when they're caught? There's ALWAYS an excuse. Even with Toney, his excuse was that he was prescribed them and didn't know what he was taking (a total joke). If we go by athlete's words, then there's like 5 professional athletes who have ever used steroids- lol.

    We've done picture threads before on this for years, and Roy's body has seemed to take on that "juiced" look of fluid-filled muscle mass for many of his fights at LHW. It's a look that people who spend a lot of time in gyms just get an eye for.
    Yeah it's still speculation.

    If there's any reason to believe he did in fact abuse steroids you can point to the time he did test positive. But I'm still skeptical about everyone using the body type argument. Because all I have to do is point to Toney and Gracie who both tested positive and you could never tell either was a juicer.

    Toney using for "Injury recuperation" and Gracie using for "Combating the effects of aging" although the later is just my speculation.

    Neither one of them have the muscular body of a stereotypical juicer. Basically I'd have to see more testimonies from insiders about this subject before I was to label Roy a Juicer.

    Because as it stands I actually buy into the idea that he tested positive because of the Androstenediol compound that used to be included in Ripped Fuel which is once again an OTC supplement.


    Ps side note: I hope you saw Frank demolish Steroni. Good stuff.



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    Last edited by Run; 07-20-2007, 10:30 AM.

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    • IMDAZED
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      #52
      Originally posted by Pretty Boy Styl
      Here goes everything i said off this website Bragging rights.com


      I’ve heard a lot of reasons why Roy all of a sudden doesn’t look good, or looks old in the ring, but there is one thing I want you all to chew on. I may get a bunch of e-mails saying I’m crazy and I don’t know what I’m talking about, and I’m prepared to deal with that, but the fact is Roy Jones Jr. hasn’t been the same fighter since the news was broken that he had tested positive for anabolic steroids use when he fought Richard Hall in 2001. (Well, actually the cover-up of the whole incident was the real news-breaking item). Also, remember during my interview with Hall I couldn’t believe how steroids could help a boxer out, but now I’m doing some second guessing myself.

      Not too long ago Jones put on a lot of weight to fight John Ruiz and he looked awesome at that weight, he beat the hell out of Ruiz actually. He then had to take off the weight to fight Antonio Tarver and didn’t look good, this was when the story broke, and the substance testing changed. Now that some Boxing Commissions are testing for what BALCO was providing these fighters and other substances, Roy Jones Jr. hasn’t looked the same and it hurts me to say that but it’s true.

      Glen Johnson as a light heavyweight puncher will never be confused with Michael Moorer or Bob Foster or any other big puncher. He is, simply put, a volume puncher... All of a sudden he has one punch power. I know when you are hit behind the ear or anywhere near your temple you lose your equilibrium, but Roy Jones was out cold when that right hand hit him... Moreover, if you watch the tape closely you'll notice that the punch didn’t even land completely clean, then his head hit the mat which reportedly gave him a concussion. I don’t buy it, you can get old overnight.

      I’ve seen many athletes, even the elite ones who keep themselves in top physical shape, all of a sudden become old. Wait until it happens to Barry Bonds, it might be later because Baseball doesn’t test for substances the way boxing does now. I’ll give you that Roy got old, but Roy hasn’t looked the same in the ring since the John Ruiz fight. When do you remember Roy Jones just standing in front of a guy doing nothing? He used to counter punch, pot shot, stick, move and roll out of the pocket so not to be hit; this isn’t him anymore.

      In the first Tarver fight Roy was getting hit more than any of us had ever seen. In the second fight, after a very well fought first round on Roy’s part, he gets knocked out cold and now Glen Johnson, I repeat Glen Johnson, with a record of 41-9-2 with 28 KO’s takes Roy Jones Jr. out to the woodshed… There’s something wrong with that.
      So basically, you have no proof?

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        #53
        Wasn't this debate over like 2 years ago?

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        • werewolf
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          #54
          Good article. Steroid abuse permeates pro sports now, and amateurs are taking it up as well.




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          • Pretty Boy Styl
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            #55
            Nobody has proof against bonds but everyone says he used them

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              #56
              Originally posted by Pretty Boy Styl
              Nobody has proof against bonds but everyone says he used them
              Yah. And your point is? Do you have a point? Because your proof is pathetic and your arguments are even worse. You're on here spewing your speculation as if it's fact. Sorry dude, just because you believe your elaborate conspiracy doesn't make it true.

              According to you, Jones was dumb enough to use steroids and get caught, then switched to HGH because he wouldn't get caught. Yet somehow never got caught using steroids BEFORE Hall. Do I have this right?

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              • Truth
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                #57
                Pretty Boy Styl, this is speculation. Its not facts until there is real evidence. Its not inconceivable to me that Roy just got old. He was 35 when Tarver landed that perfect left hand he didn't see. Maybe the reason he never was rocked against Ruiz is because Ruiz never landed a punch right on the button like Tarver did. I think its the punches you don't see that hurt you, not the hard punches all the time. Roy probably saw everything Ruiz threw. People say he was at his super human peak against Ruiz but remember he was fighting Ruiz. A great boxer like Roy will look perfect against Ruiz. Plus he trained with Mackie Shilstone and was highly motivated. Tarver is a definitley alot tougher of a challege than John Ruiz.

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                • Pretty Boy Styl
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                  #58
                  Now that some Boxing Commissions are testing for what BALCO was providing these fighters and other substances, Roy Jones Jr. hasn’t looked the same and it hurts me to say that but it’s true. <---------- there is my point rite there

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                    #59
                    Roy Jones Jr. admitted through his attorney that he tested positive and did take steroids. That is a fact.

                    He has also been rumored to be a client of BALCO. Now, unlike Mosely who was asked to testify before congress there has not been any official verification of this so I will give him the benefit of the doubt. But I will say the fact he has used steroids does not help to refute that he was in fact a client.

                    Therefore, even the most obstinate fan of his has to admit that it is hard to ignore the connection between his sudden downfall and the recent effort to drive steroids out of professional sports. He still has talent as his last win suggested but nothing like he was, and it was too sudden of a collapse to simply blame on age.

                    You connect the dots.

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                    • Run
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Feint
                      Roy Jones Jr. admitted through his attorney that he tested positive and did take steroids. That is a fact.

                      He has also been rumored to be a client of BALCO. Now, unlike Mosely who was asked to testify before congress there has not been any official verification of this so I will give him the benefit of the doubt. But I will say the fact he has used steroids does not help to refute that he was in fact a client.

                      Therefore, even the most obstinate fan of his has to admit that it is hard to ignore the connection between his sudden downfall and the recent effort to drive steroids out of professional sports. He still has talent as his last win suggested but nothing like he was, and it was too sudden of a collapse to simply blame on age.

                      You connect the dots.
                      No. He admitted to taking Ripped Fuel which is an over the counter supplement that used to contain Androstenediol compounds.

                      Huge difference between admitting to taking steroids....and admitting to using an OTC supplement.



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