Best TRainer in Boxing

[Tha_Greatest]

Given the poll options, I voted for Manny Steward mainly on the strength of his noteriety, as I'm less of an authority on trainers than I am on boxers, or for that matter, boxing.

That said, their are seven other notable trainers who merit honorable mention. The con****uous absence of their names from the poll is probabably more a reflection of the thread-starter's youth than anything else.

• Cus D'Amato of Floyd Patterson/Jose Torres fame.
• Teddy Atlas (Mike Tyson)
• Kevin Rooney (Mike Tyson)
• Yancey "Yank" Durham (Joe Frazier)
• Eddie Futch trained Joe Frazier, Ken Norton, Larry Holmes and Trevor Berbick, four of the five men to defeat Muhammad Ali.
• Angelo Dundee (Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard) need I say more?
• Ray Arcel (the "Methuselah" of trainers), trained two of the greatest lightweight champions in boxing history - Benny Leonard and Roberto Duran - 60 years apart!

Im tring to put in modern trainers, I did mention Teddy Atlas was a mistake to not put in without anybody reminding me and please, nobody mention Lou Duva, he is awful senile fart

[Panamaniac]

...there are seven other notable trainers who merit honorable mention. The con****uous absence of their names from the poll is probabably more a reflection of the thread-starter's youth than anything else.

Im tring to put in modern trainers, I did mention Teddy Atlas was a mistake to not put in without anybody reminding me and please, nobody mention Lou Duva, he is awful senile fart

Fair enough, it's your poll and your prerogative to include (or exclude) whomever you want. Being an old-timer myself (relatively speaking, of course), I just wanted to give the old-timers a well-deserved plug.

On an unrelated note, super avatar (yours), by the way...

[Hydro]

Given the poll options, I voted for Manny Steward mainly on the strength of his noteriety, as I'm less of an authority on trainers than I am on boxers, or for that matter, boxing.

That said, their are seven other notable trainers who merit honorable mention. The con****uous absence of their names from the poll is probabably more a reflection of the thread-starter's youth than anything else.

• Cus D'Amato of Floyd Patterson/Jose Torres fame.
• Teddy Atlas (Mike Tyson)
• Kevin Rooney (Mike Tyson)
• Yancey "Yank" Durham (Joe Frazier)
• Eddie Futch trained Joe Frazier, Ken Norton, Larry Holmes and Trevor Berbick, four of the five men to defeat Muhammad Ali.
• Angelo Dundee (Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard) need I say more?
• Ray Arcel (the "Methuselah" of trainers), trained two of the greatest lightweight champions in boxing history - Benny Leonard and Roberto Duran - 60 years apart!

Futch was one of my favorites. Not only a great trainer, but he had a good heart too and did the right thing in Manila.

Neither Atlas nor Rooney were very good pro trainers. Funny thing is, among Tyson's former trainers, the only who gets bashed the most, Aaron "Condom on the Eye" Snowell, actually was the best pro trainer of those 3.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Who is it(Vote On The poll as well) it should come up shortly multiple votes are welcomed if people believe 2 or more guys are on top as top trainer

Felix Trinidad , Sr.

[Tha_Greatest]

Fair enough, it's your poll and your prerogative to include (or exclude) whomever you want. Being an old-timer myself (relatively speaking, of course), I just wanted to give the old-timers a well-deserved plug.

On an unrelated note, super avatar (yours), by the way...

IIm gonna be honest, i dont know any of the trainers you wisely mentioned, Im too young at 23 but i do know Teddy Atlas and Cus.


I Love the job that Teddy did with Tyson until Tyson got personal with Teddys family and i alsoLove the way he did that inspiring tough speeches to Moorer to help him and will Moorer to victory over Holyfield

[Hydro]

Im tring to put in modern trainers, I did mention Teddy Atlas was a mistake to not put in without anybody reminding me and please, nobody mention Lou Duva, he is awful senile fart

You were right to not put Teddy Atlas in there.

He is quite possibly the most overrated trainer in boxing history.

His claim to fame is allegedly "inspiring" and "willing" Moorer to victory over a lethargic Holyfield (possibly suffering from the effects of HGH), when in reality if you watch the fight, Moorer slept-walk thru the rounds right after Teddy's speeches. Moorer got dropped early in the fight and was cautious after that 2nd round KD.

Moorer fought with little passion even after Atlas was begging him to fight harder. He fought with more passion BEFORE and AFTER working with Atlas.

Moorer could be one lazy fighter.

[Panamaniac]

IIm gonna be honest, i dont know any of the trainers you wisely mentioned, Im too young at 23 but i do know Teddy Atlas and Cus.

See, I had you pegged from the get-go when I said your poll was a reflection of your youth. I was 23 once; unfortunately, it only lasted 365 days...

[Tha_Greatest]

You were right to not put Teddy Atlas in there.

He is quite possibly the most overrated trainer in boxing history.

His claim to fame is allegedly "inspiring" and "willing" Moorer to victory over a lethargic Holyfield (possibly suffering from the effects of HGH), when in reality if you watch the fight, Moorer slept-walk thru the rounds right after Teddy's speeches. Moorer got dropped early in the fight and was cautious after that 2nd round KD.

Moorer fought with little passion even after Atlas was begging him to fight harder. He fought with more passion BEFORE and AFTER working with Atlas.

Moorer could be one lazy fighter.

I actually liked Teddys job with Moorer but many people also felt like you did,

[Feint]

i alsoLove the way he did that inspiring tough speeches to Moorer to help him and will Moorer to victory over Holyfield

I agree, that was some of the best corner work I had ever heard.

It is hard to say who was the best but I guess Steward certainly deserves some consideration.

[Hydro]

I actually liked Teddys job with Moorer but many people also felt like you did,

Teddy, despite being as overrated as any trainer can possibly be, said the right things to Moorer in the first Holyfield fight and the Foreman fight. It's just that Moorer could be such a stubborn lazy-ass and did things his own way, and it really hurt him against Foreman.

HBO Legendary Nights can fool people into believing that Teddy somehow "willed" Moorer to victory. After seeing the fight in full, I saw how damn lazy Moorer was even after Teddy was begging him to fight harder. Even Jim Lampley said "well, Moorer is gonna get another scorching from Teddy Atlas after this round".

I actually used to more or less like Teddy, but after watching and learning more about him, and his fighters, I now see what an overrated trainer and a huge hypocrite he is.