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actually, i saw thr fight 8-4 with oscar winning rounds 2, 6, 7, and 8, and that round was iffy, it could have went either way. even inround 4 when oscar got off that flurry of bodyshots while he held floyd's other hand, floyd just landed the more effective, cleaner shots. the rounds that floyd did lose he landed more than oscar still, or a punch or two less than him. oscar lost the fight by unanimous decision imo and the scorecards were shake, especially by kazmerrick. kellerman said it best.
as far as oscar being past his prime, well, it's easy for you to claim this when the fight is over, but i'm not certain, but am willing to bet that you, just like many other people on this forum had high hopes in oscar beating floyd, especially with the left hook. then you realized that floyd was world's apart from oscar because floyd won this fight just cruising. he fought at a remotely steady tempo and whether oscar pressed the fight, which he did, or not, overall, he fought at floyd's pace. oscar threw a lot of flurries but missed many punches, if not, most. seeing how floyd had a higher landed punch percentile than oscar did, and watching how floyd landed his punches, he showed me once again just how versaitle he is.
okay, in round 2 when oscar threw his jab, he started to look more into the fight. he was more aggressive, more relentless, and he landed some pretty decent shots, but mayweather kept his poise and he also landed some pretty decent shots, but at a low tempo. he manuvered his body to where he blocked many of oscar's shots and still seemed to land the more effective shots. oscar actually landed less punches than floyd in that round, but at a higher punch output and more active pressure, i could see why that round went to him. floyd, comes back in round 3, still fighting calm, justlanding potshots here and there, was slowly showing oscar that he could be as aggressive as he wanted to, throw as much as he wanted to, press the fight as much as he wanted and felt he needed to, but as long as floyd dictates his pace, oscar wasn't really doing anything. so when it looked like floyd was being just defensive, he'd land a power shot that oscar would try to to walk through to land something himself, which he did some effectiviely, but in turn, floyd stepped up the pace with his great foot movement. and then he showcased his great defense like his blocking, something that his father fail to mention in his interview with larry merchant, but i'll touch on that in a bit.
in round 4, oscar landed some decent shots especially to the body but floyd methodically was hitting oscar which the guys who tallied up the landed punches saw. oscar lost that round imo was as active as he was, he missed a lot of punches. he threw more, which many of mayweather's opponent's do, but floyd was more accurate because he picks his punches wisely, just like in round 5 where he hit oscar with a vicious left hook, followed by a jab to the body that set up a right hook upstairs. oscar tried to stay active but he was missing too many punches and then when he got floyd on the ropes, seeing just how brilliant floyd maweather is with his eye movement and counterpunching ability as well as his timing, oscar threw a right and a left and the right was blocked and floyd countered oscar with a right hook as oscar was coming back with the left hook and he did this twice. the rounds that floyd won, like round 5, 10, and 11, he dominated those rounds. the rounds that oscar won, he didn't dominate those rounds, he was just more active. he stopped using his jab, the punch that he landed effectively in round 8, and in turn lost that round to some people like lederman, but i actually gave oscar that round, but it could have goine either way. my point is, oscar wasn't past his prime imo in the sense that he couldn't go(because he's always had stamina issues), and seeing how floyd wasn't in his prime imo either but not past it, i make the argument that you have 2 fighters past their primes but still great fighters. floyd mayweather's prime weight imo was 140, not 154. oscar's prime weight may have been 147, but a 140 pound mayweather would have ripped apart a 147 pound de la hoya. why? floyd has always been faster, better defensive, better foot movement, better stamina, better endurance, more dominate, a better counterpuncher, a quicker jab and left hook, a better right hand, better upperbody movement, better timing, higher accuracy, better polished, and could use the ring much better than de la hoya could in any point of oscar's career. oscar was a warrior with great boxing skills and a great left hook and a stiff jab. mayweather is leauges ahead of oscar. his skills are second to none, and oscar, as great as he is, doesn't and has never held a candle to floyd mayweather's skills. his resume is bigger and better imo, but his skills are nowhere near floyd's and they never will be.
as far as floyd sr is concerned. maybe he needs to go back and rewatch just whatt he said. and maybe you need to also. he claimed that if you score off of just punch stats, oscar won. yes, oscar threw more punches, but landed 85 punches less, in just the power punch stat. he landed less in the jab punch stat because he threw less jabs than floyd did and floyd landed more jabs than oscar did. when oscar threw his jab it landed well, but that's when he consistently threw it in the 8th round. many of oscar's punches missed floyd, because of how great a blocker floyd is. floyd sr failed to mention this in his interview. i guess he thought that if he said what he said, he'd get in good with oscar. too bad for him, oscar is keeping freddie roach. tough **** floyd sr. people though oscar won because he threw more punches that floyd and was more active. well, if that's how boxing is scored,then winky wright would have a much worst recored than he does, because how is it okay when he blocks punches, and the punchers look more active than him, but only land punches on his arms and shoulders, but when floyd jr does that, he loses. i mean, this isn't the first time this has happened in a floyd jr fight. he has thrown less punches than many to most of his opponents but landed more and was less active that those opponents. yet, nobody complains until he fights de la hoya. i call this the hippocracy of our deboxcracy.
as far as oscar being past his prime, well, it's easy for you to claim this when the fight is over, but i'm not certain, but am willing to bet that you, just like many other people on this forum had high hopes in oscar beating floyd, especially with the left hook. then you realized that floyd was world's apart from oscar because floyd won this fight just cruising. he fought at a remotely steady tempo and whether oscar pressed the fight, which he did, or not, overall, he fought at floyd's pace. oscar threw a lot of flurries but missed many punches, if not, most. seeing how floyd had a higher landed punch percentile than oscar did, and watching how floyd landed his punches, he showed me once again just how versaitle he is.
okay, in round 2 when oscar threw his jab, he started to look more into the fight. he was more aggressive, more relentless, and he landed some pretty decent shots, but mayweather kept his poise and he also landed some pretty decent shots, but at a low tempo. he manuvered his body to where he blocked many of oscar's shots and still seemed to land the more effective shots. oscar actually landed less punches than floyd in that round, but at a higher punch output and more active pressure, i could see why that round went to him. floyd, comes back in round 3, still fighting calm, justlanding potshots here and there, was slowly showing oscar that he could be as aggressive as he wanted to, throw as much as he wanted to, press the fight as much as he wanted and felt he needed to, but as long as floyd dictates his pace, oscar wasn't really doing anything. so when it looked like floyd was being just defensive, he'd land a power shot that oscar would try to to walk through to land something himself, which he did some effectiviely, but in turn, floyd stepped up the pace with his great foot movement. and then he showcased his great defense like his blocking, something that his father fail to mention in his interview with larry merchant, but i'll touch on that in a bit.
in round 4, oscar landed some decent shots especially to the body but floyd methodically was hitting oscar which the guys who tallied up the landed punches saw. oscar lost that round imo was as active as he was, he missed a lot of punches. he threw more, which many of mayweather's opponent's do, but floyd was more accurate because he picks his punches wisely, just like in round 5 where he hit oscar with a vicious left hook, followed by a jab to the body that set up a right hook upstairs. oscar tried to stay active but he was missing too many punches and then when he got floyd on the ropes, seeing just how brilliant floyd maweather is with his eye movement and counterpunching ability as well as his timing, oscar threw a right and a left and the right was blocked and floyd countered oscar with a right hook as oscar was coming back with the left hook and he did this twice. the rounds that floyd won, like round 5, 10, and 11, he dominated those rounds. the rounds that oscar won, he didn't dominate those rounds, he was just more active. he stopped using his jab, the punch that he landed effectively in round 8, and in turn lost that round to some people like lederman, but i actually gave oscar that round, but it could have goine either way. my point is, oscar wasn't past his prime imo in the sense that he couldn't go(because he's always had stamina issues), and seeing how floyd wasn't in his prime imo either but not past it, i make the argument that you have 2 fighters past their primes but still great fighters. floyd mayweather's prime weight imo was 140, not 154. oscar's prime weight may have been 147, but a 140 pound mayweather would have ripped apart a 147 pound de la hoya. why? floyd has always been faster, better defensive, better foot movement, better stamina, better endurance, more dominate, a better counterpuncher, a quicker jab and left hook, a better right hand, better upperbody movement, better timing, higher accuracy, better polished, and could use the ring much better than de la hoya could in any point of oscar's career. oscar was a warrior with great boxing skills and a great left hook and a stiff jab. mayweather is leauges ahead of oscar. his skills are second to none, and oscar, as great as he is, doesn't and has never held a candle to floyd mayweather's skills. his resume is bigger and better imo, but his skills are nowhere near floyd's and they never will be.
as far as floyd sr is concerned. maybe he needs to go back and rewatch just whatt he said. and maybe you need to also. he claimed that if you score off of just punch stats, oscar won. yes, oscar threw more punches, but landed 85 punches less, in just the power punch stat. he landed less in the jab punch stat because he threw less jabs than floyd did and floyd landed more jabs than oscar did. when oscar threw his jab it landed well, but that's when he consistently threw it in the 8th round. many of oscar's punches missed floyd, because of how great a blocker floyd is. floyd sr failed to mention this in his interview. i guess he thought that if he said what he said, he'd get in good with oscar. too bad for him, oscar is keeping freddie roach. tough **** floyd sr. people though oscar won because he threw more punches that floyd and was more active. well, if that's how boxing is scored,then winky wright would have a much worst recored than he does, because how is it okay when he blocks punches, and the punchers look more active than him, but only land punches on his arms and shoulders, but when floyd jr does that, he loses. i mean, this isn't the first time this has happened in a floyd jr fight. he has thrown less punches than many to most of his opponents but landed more and was less active that those opponents. yet, nobody complains until he fights de la hoya. i call this the hippocracy of our deboxcracy.
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