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  • SpeedKillz
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    #21
    Originally posted by pbftxrs316
    no, i doubt it would. remember, people hate his personality, so their hatred boils over into his in ring status as well as his legacy in boxing. so, a victory over shane mosley unfortunately wouldn't do much for his legacy at this point, seeing how people make up their excuses before a mayweather fight even happens. it's a shame you know, that floyd called out shane mosley at 135 and 147 and shane or whoever was on his team opted not to take the fight. but, many seem to forget this or just push it away.

    now, already, people are claiming that floyd should fight cotto, hatton, williams, cintron, and whoever else. people are claiming that each of these fighters have the best chance of beating floyd jr. but, we've heard it all before. hatton has the best chance because of his smothering. mosley has the best chance because of his equal speed, more power, good stamina, and equal skill when the truth of it is that floyd jr has always been a better skilled fighter and has always had faster hands,a much better defense, and much better ring generalship than mosley and still does today. cotto has the best chance because of his win over judah seeing how he dominated him and knocked him out. that's why they really think he could take floyd but they give reasons like he could walk through floyd's punches and break him down to the body. yeah, yeah, yeah. he had that chance at 140. for whatever reason, that didn't happen. margarito has the best chance at beating mayweather because of his good chin and relentless power. and because floyd publicly ducked him and turned down 8 million dollars to fight him. okay, so floyd fights baldomir, the wbc 147 title holder. a guy who the boxing world labled the cinderella man after his impressive victories over judah and gatti. meanwhile, as tough as margarito is, he only fights on hbo boxing after dark. hell, he just fought and undefeated fighter named paul williams, and still couldn't make it to ppv. now, i'm not saying that this means that floyd shouldn't fight him based off of this, but let's be honest, this is a business, and all fighters want big paydays. margartio wanted cotto because of how rich he would become and because he would make it to ppv finally. i mean, he struggled with clottey and just lost to paul williams, legitimate welterweight fighters, yes, but also guys who weren't ppv worthy yet to the broad public. so, he thinks he can just call out the p4p champion who has fought on ppv, still undefeated, and who was looking for a big name with who he feels can expand his legacy. carlos baldomir wasn't a big name fighter until his victories over gatti and judah. he held the wbc championship for the welterweight division a title that floyd has made no secrets about being the best title out there. could he had unified the wbo and wbc titles, hell yes. it's obivous that floyd is a much better fighter than margarito has ever been. i never saw margarito as a threat to floyd ever. floyd would mop the floor with margarito. oh, and by the way, bob arum is a demon promoter. now, kermit cintron is the best fight out there for him because he is back the old kermit cintron. okay, i would like to see him fight floyd and get his ass kicked because he knows that floyd's speed alone would overwhelm him. but, the public isn't smart enough yet to see this. and, last but not least, paul williams is now the newest best fight for floyd seeing how he is tall, has a long reach, high punch output, southpaw, and stays active. well, this is actually a decent argument. i give paul williams the title as the best fight out there for mayweather. i want to see this fight. i believe paul would give mayweather competition in a losing effort. paul has all of those traits, but, fights off balance and floyd would work his way inside and he fights so good out of the pocket, that he would give paul hell. paul would have to use the ring a lot because floyd would break down paul's body, which is linky i know, but if anybody can do it effectively, it's floyd jr. you people seem to forget just how good he is when it comes to body punches. he can break any fighter down with body punches when he chooses to. paul would have to snap floyd's head back with his jab and he would have to land it effectively to do so. paul's timing is decent with his jab but that's against fighters who don't move their head to well. mayweather has great blocking and head movement as well as over fast reflexes. paul would have to punch nonstop to throw mayweather off, and he is capable imo in doing this, but at the end of the day floyd's ring smarts would overwhelm paul and he'll be just another fighter who came up short against the best fighter in boxing, and that's fine.

    again, no fighter from 154 down beats mayweather, guarantee you all.
    wow, excellent post!

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    • TheEvilSaint
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      #22
      he would pick cintron apart. floyd vs tito or winky is just ******. fighting margarito now is just pointless. and oscar already said "no" to a rematch.

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      • Tyson Jones
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        #23
        i think floyd should fight hatton or cotto next.

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        • Tha_Greatest
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          #24
          Originally posted by pbftxrs316
          no, i doubt it would. remember, people hate his personality, so their hatred boils over into his in ring status as well as his legacy in boxing. so, a victory over shane mosley unfortunately wouldn't do much for his legacy at this point, seeing how people make up their excuses before a mayweather fight even happens. it's a shame you know, that floyd called out shane mosley at 135 and 147 and shane or whoever was on his team opted not to take the fight. but, many seem to forget this or just push it away.

          now, already, people are claiming that floyd should fight cotto, hatton, williams, cintron, and whoever else. people are claiming that each of these fighters have the best chance of beating floyd jr. but, we've heard it all before. hatton has the best chance because of his smothering. mosley has the best chance because of his equal speed, more power, good stamina, and equal skill when the truth of it is that floyd jr has always been a better skilled fighter and has always had faster hands,a much better defense, and much better ring generalship than mosley and still does today. cotto has the best chance because of his win over judah seeing how he dominated him and knocked him out. that's why they really think he could take floyd but they give reasons like he could walk through floyd's punches and break him down to the body. yeah, yeah, yeah. he had that chance at 140. for whatever reason, that didn't happen. margarito has the best chance at beating mayweather because of his good chin and relentless power. and because floyd publicly ducked him and turned down 8 million dollars to fight him. okay, so floyd fights baldomir, the wbc 147 title holder. a guy who the boxing world labled the cinderella man after his impressive victories over judah and gatti. meanwhile, as tough as margarito is, he only fights on hbo boxing after dark. hell, he just fought and undefeated fighter named paul williams, and still couldn't make it to ppv. now, i'm not saying that this means that floyd shouldn't fight him based off of this, but let's be honest, this is a business, and all fighters want big paydays. margartio wanted cotto because of how rich he would become and because he would make it to ppv finally. i mean, he struggled with clottey and just lost to paul williams, legitimate welterweight fighters, yes, but also guys who weren't ppv worthy yet to the broad public. so, he thinks he can just call out the p4p champion who has fought on ppv, still undefeated, and who was looking for a big name with who he feels can expand his legacy. carlos baldomir wasn't a big name fighter until his victories over gatti and judah. he held the wbc championship for the welterweight division a title that floyd has made no secrets about being the best title out there. could he had unified the wbo and wbc titles, hell yes. it's obivous that floyd is a much better fighter than margarito has ever been. i never saw margarito as a threat to floyd ever. floyd would mop the floor with margarito. oh, and by the way, bob arum is a demon promoter. now, kermit cintron is the best fight out there for him because he is back the old kermit cintron. okay, i would like to see him fight floyd and get his ass kicked because he knows that floyd's speed alone would overwhelm him. but, the public isn't smart enough yet to see this. and, last but not least, paul williams is now the newest best fight for floyd seeing how he is tall, has a long reach, high punch output, southpaw, and stays active. well, this is actually a decent argument. i give paul williams the title as the best fight out there for mayweather. i want to see this fight. i believe paul would give mayweather competition in a losing effort. paul has all of those traits, but, fights off balance and floyd would work his way inside and he fights so good out of the pocket, that he would give paul hell. paul would have to use the ring a lot because floyd would break down paul's body, which is linky i know, but if anybody can do it effectively, it's floyd jr. you people seem to forget just how good he is when it comes to body punches. he can break any fighter down with body punches when he chooses to. paul would have to snap floyd's head back with his jab and he would have to land it effectively to do so. paul's timing is decent with his jab but that's against fighters who don't move their head to well. mayweather has great blocking and head movement as well as over fast reflexes. paul would have to punch nonstop to throw mayweather off, and he is capable imo in doing this, but at the end of the day floyd's ring smarts would overwhelm paul and he'll be just another fighter who came up short against the best fighter in boxing, and that's fine.

          again, no fighter from 154 down beats mayweather, guarantee you all.
          I do give you alot of credit for a decent argument until you put up a biased guarantee, how are you going to make a guarantee, thats only a belief or opinion that you have about nobody can beat Floyd, Many people do remember the first castillo fight, Many people thought Castillo won. Their is no such thing as a guarantee from pbftxrs316 for Floyd to win. Floyd may be the favorite against everyone on paper but its not guaranteed for him to win just cause hes a betting favorite,

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          • ReadyUp
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            #25
            I picked Oscar before reading the question.

            I thought the question is WHO will Floyd fight next?

            I honestly think that's the only person he is going to fight unless Hatton makes some big moves in negotiations NOW.


            But who SHOULD Floyd fight???
            I'd love to see him fight any of them.

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            • UltimateBoxer69
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              #26
              Floyd should fight moesly next......im sure people were saying that mosley is the only person who could match mayweather's skills.....cotto would give mayweather a run for his money aswell... hatton is a sitting duck for mayweathers dazzling skills....it would be another mayweather vs gatti...an absolute masterclass....those people who say hatton will beat mayweather are kidding themselves...wake-up! Mosley, Cotto and MAYBE Williams are the only people dangerous enough to beat Mayweather!

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              • SpeedKillz
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                #27
                Originally posted by UltimateBoxer69
                Floyd should fight moesly next......im sure people were saying that mosley is the only person who could match mayweather's skills.....cotto would give mayweather a run for his money aswell... hatton is a sitting duck for mayweathers dazzling skills....it would be another mayweather vs gatti...an absolute masterclass....those people who say hatton will beat mayweather are kidding themselves...wake-up! Mosley, Cotto and MAYBE Williams are the only people dangerous enough to beat Mayweather!
                at least i'm not the only one that thinks that....
                i agree with the rest of ur post as well.

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                • UltimateBoxer69
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by SpeedKillz
                  at least i'm not the only one that thinks that....
                  i agree with the rest of ur post as well.
                  Nice to know there's 2 of us! It really does amaze me to think that all of thes Hatton fans are deluding themselves....Like ive said earlier Mayweather vs Hatton will be another Gatti Vs Mayweather...yes Hatton will pose much more of a challenge than Gatti...but the end result will be the same. Cotto/Mosley/Williams are Mayweather's greatest threats...

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                  • SpeedKillz
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by UltimateBoxer69
                    Nice to know there's 2 of us! It really does amaze me to think that all of thes Hatton fans are deluding themselves....Like ive said earlier Mayweather vs Hatton will be another Gatti Vs Mayweather...yes Hatton will pose much more of a challenge than Gatti...but the end result will be the same. Cotto/Mosley/Williams are Mayweather's greatest threats...
                    i been sayin the exact same thing word for word in about 10 other floyd-related posts!!

                    amen to you brother!

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                    • pbftxrs316
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Tha_Greatest
                      How is he #1 p4p if he barely beat a old Oscar out of prime Oscar in a split decision where many believed Oscar won, Even Flods dad thought Oscar won so that said , he should fight Mosley or Hatton
                      actually, i saw thr fight 8-4 with oscar winning rounds 2, 6, 7, and 8, and that round was iffy, it could have went either way. even inround 4 when oscar got off that flurry of bodyshots while he held floyd's other hand, floyd just landed the more effective, cleaner shots. the rounds that floyd did lose he landed more than oscar still, or a punch or two less than him. oscar lost the fight by unanimous decision imo and the scorecards were shake, especially by kazmerrick. kellerman said it best.

                      as far as oscar being past his prime, well, it's easy for you to claim this when the fight is over, but i'm not certain, but am willing to bet that you, just like many other people on this forum had high hopes in oscar beating floyd, especially with the left hook. then you realized that floyd was world's apart from oscar because floyd won this fight just cruising. he fought at a remotely steady tempo and whether oscar pressed the fight, which he did, or not, overall, he fought at floyd's pace. oscar threw a lot of flurries but missed many punches, if not, most. seeing how floyd had a higher landed punch percentile than oscar did, and watching how floyd landed his punches, he showed me once again just how versaitle he is.

                      okay, in round 2 when oscar threw his jab, he started to look more into the fight. he was more aggressive, more relentless, and he landed some pretty decent shots, but mayweather kept his poise and he also landed some pretty decent shots, but at a low tempo. he manuvered his body to where he blocked many of oscar's shots and still seemed to land the more effective shots. oscar actually landed less punches than floyd in that round, but at a higher punch output and more active pressure, i could see why that round went to him. floyd, comes back in round 3, still fighting calm, justlanding potshots here and there, was slowly showing oscar that he could be as aggressive as he wanted to, throw as much as he wanted to, press the fight as much as he wanted and felt he needed to, but as long as floyd dictates his pace, oscar wasn't really doing anything. so when it looked like floyd was being just defensive, he'd land a power shot that oscar would try to to walk through to land something himself, which he did some effectiviely, but in turn, floyd stepped up the pace with his great foot movement. and then he showcased his great defense like his blocking, something that his father fail to mention in his interview with larry merchant, but i'll touch on that in a bit.

                      in round 4, oscar landed some decent shots especially to the body but floyd methodically was hitting oscar which the guys who tallied up the landed punches saw. oscar lost that round imo was as active as he was, he missed a lot of punches. he threw more, which many of mayweather's opponent's do, but floyd was more accurate because he picks his punches wisely, just like in round 5 where he hit oscar with a vicious left hook, followed by a jab to the body that set up a right hook upstairs. oscar tried to stay active but he was missing too many punches and then when he got floyd on the ropes, seeing just how brilliant floyd maweather is with his eye movement and counterpunching ability as well as his timing, oscar threw a right and a left and the right was blocked and floyd countered oscar with a right hook as oscar was coming back with the left hook and he did this twice. the rounds that floyd won, like round 5, 10, and 11, he dominated those rounds. the rounds that oscar won, he didn't dominate those rounds, he was just more active. he stopped using his jab, the punch that he landed effectively in round 8, and in turn lost that round to some people like lederman, but i actually gave oscar that round, but it could have goine either way. my point is, oscar wasn't past his prime imo in the sense that he couldn't go(because he's always had stamina issues), and seeing how floyd wasn't in his prime imo either but not past it, i make the argument that you have 2 fighters past their primes but still great fighters. floyd mayweather's prime weight imo was 140, not 154. oscar's prime weight may have been 147, but a 140 pound mayweather would have ripped apart a 147 pound de la hoya. why? floyd has always been faster, better defensive, better foot movement, better stamina, better endurance, more dominate, a better counterpuncher, a quicker jab and left hook, a better right hand, better upperbody movement, better timing, higher accuracy, better polished, and could use the ring much better than de la hoya could in any point of oscar's career. oscar was a warrior with great boxing skills and a great left hook and a stiff jab. mayweather is leauges ahead of oscar. his skills are second to none, and oscar, as great as he is, doesn't and has never held a candle to floyd mayweather's skills. his resume is bigger and better imo, but his skills are nowhere near floyd's and they never will be.

                      as far as floyd sr is concerned. maybe he needs to go back and rewatch just whatt he said. and maybe you need to also. he claimed that if you score off of just punch stats, oscar won. yes, oscar threw more punches, but landed 85 punches less, in just the power punch stat. he landed less in the jab punch stat because he threw less jabs than floyd did and floyd landed more jabs than oscar did. when oscar threw his jab it landed well, but that's when he consistently threw it in the 8th round. many of oscar's punches missed floyd, because of how great a blocker floyd is. floyd sr failed to mention this in his interview. i guess he thought that if he said what he said, he'd get in good with oscar. too bad for him, oscar is keeping freddie roach. tough **** floyd sr. people though oscar won because he threw more punches that floyd and was more active. well, if that's how boxing is scored,then winky wright would have a much worst recored than he does, because how is it okay when he blocks punches, and the punchers look more active than him, but only land punches on his arms and shoulders, but when floyd jr does that, he loses. i mean, this isn't the first time this has happened in a floyd jr fight. he has thrown less punches than many to most of his opponents but landed more and was less active that those opponents. yet, nobody complains until he fights de la hoya. i call this the hippocracy of our deboxcracy.

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