Is Kessler-Calzaghe a Superfight?

[Technical_Skill]

In terms of ability Calzaghe is in their league, Kessler is not.

The water keeps getting deeper.

Keep your opinion, im sorry in my opinion i cant put Joe Calzaghe in the same league as James Toney and Roy Jones lol, but this isnt the place to debate that.

[Fighting Cougar]

Yes, I think it is.

[me2007]

toney and rjj are bums. They both ducked the best middle weights of their era.

[Technical_Skill]

toney and rjj are bums. They both ducked the best middle weights of their era.

I think you left the gas on and went to bed, there can be little other explaination for a comment like that.

[DiegoFuego]

Boxing is global, not just American. This fight is very similar to Jones Jr-James Toney--two undefeated elite 168 lbers going at it. Obviously, the difference is those two are American and these two are not. Granted, that fight wasn't a superfight but that was because it was in the middle of a great heavyweight era, where the only superfights involved Evander Holyfield or Mike Tyson.

These days, we are lucky to get one superfight a year, given the current state of the sport I think this qualifies and we should all rejoice that it is actually made...but we should also hope that it comes off and no one gets hurt in training...

Toney vs. Jones was definitely considered a superfight and this is too. Just not on the same level as Jones vs. Toney. Remember, that was Jones' coming out party, but it was hyped big time. Sugar Ray Leonard was there to do commentary before the fight and ****.

[me2007]

RJJ fought nobodies his entire career and is a known cheat

Toney moved up divisions to avoid fighting the best fighters. He lost to some mediocre fighters in his supposed prime.

they are both bums.

[DiegoFuego]

No casue the Eubank fight was not a big fight, if Cal wins this fight then he will probably become a superstar, oh if Kessler wins the fight and comes gets a few big wins in America, he will become a superstar.

Good point. The winner will never be considered a superstar if they don't come to America in their next fight.

[Technical_Skill]

Toney moved up divisions to avoid fighting the best fighters. He lost to some mediocre fighters in his supposed prime.

they are both bums.

Yeah toney is a coward, he started at 160, fought A prime Roy Jones, Michal Nunn, beat a prime Vassily Jirov, went up to heavyweight and stopped holyfield then fought the most dangerous puncher in the divsion and (according to most) gave him a lesson in boxing.

But Calzaghe is great, he fought greats such as................ Eubank and.................no one else.

And moved up...............actually he has been at the same weight for about 10 years lol.

You cant talk about Joe in the same breath as Toney dude, ever. Calzaghe is a good fighter though.

[BrooklynBomber]

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[me2007]

you know you have problems when Jirov is on your highlight reel