Is the HW Division a Joke?

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  • Vladimir303
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    #31
    Originally posted by !! SiN
    The talent is not there, you idiot. Who cares about these fights when they are total mismatches or boring as ****? Lamon Brewster is not a top 20 fighter in any respectable era. The guy has a thick head and that's about it. No boxing skills whatsoever.

    Who cares? I care, this isn't wwe where everything is entertaining and competitive and also fake. It's real, you take what you can get.

    Ibragimov has no right to hold a title. The thing that is even sadder is that an even ****tier fighter, Briggs, held the title before him.
    You need to take that up with the sanctioning bodies.




    Maskaev is another terrible titleholder. How the hell he has a belt is beyond me. He has been knocked out by some terrible fighters in his career. He is such a terrible fighter that Hopkins challenged him for his HW title, which would have been a huge payday, and he turned down a 42-year-old lifelong middleweight because he would lose. This guy is absolute trash.
    Maskaev is todays heavyweight version of Cinderella man. He got his shot and he took advantage. He will lose his title in his next fight against a better fighter in peter.


    Chagaev struggled to beat the overprotected Valuev. Valuev struggled with Larry Donald, another old fighter who was just blown out by a prospect.

    Worst era in the history of boxing...
    So what??? Is creating a million threads about how the heavyweight division sucks gonna make the division any better? aren't we being negative. If you don't like the big boyz, then dont' watch them. SIMPLE AS THAT

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    • realheavyhands
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      #32
      Originally posted by adamk1304
      The heavyweight scene in the 80's was alot worse than it is at the moment.
      noway,, larry holmes was better then anyone in this era..

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      • Nautilus
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        #33
        Originally posted by !! SiN
        The HW division today is clearly the worst in the entire history of the sport of boxing. It is absolutely pathetic that a guy like Lamon Brewster was even considered a top 10 fighter in the division but he was. He is a former WBO champion, but he couldn't land a single significant punch against Klitschko. It was an absolute mismatch. Brewster has no skill whatsoever.

        Then we have Ibragimov as a titleholder when he was lucky to get a draw with the trash known as Ray Austin. Austin was destroyed in 2 rounds by Klitschko with no effort and this scrub was lucky to come away with a draw with the very same fighter just one fight earlier and now he's heavyweight champion?

        The HW division today is a total joke...
        I think your post is a complete BS.

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        • Verstyle
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          #34
          I still dont understand how the 4 ppl can honestly say its one of the best era's in boxing. Is it cause most of the Champs are white? Serious question too. I mean there isnt 1 dominate champion.And especially 1 thats really exciting to watch. Although Wlad is starting to look alittle like Lennox though.

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            #35
            Change the word "best" to "worst" and that's my actual vote. There is no way this division is even decent. It's easily the worst heavyweight division of all time in my book. Nobody outside of boxing can even name ONE of the heavyweight champions. That is bad.

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              #36
              Can I edit my vote? I REALLY don't want my name next to CanadaJoe's or Nautilus' on ANYTHING.

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                #37
                Originally posted by VERSATILE2K7
                I still dont understand how the 4 ppl can honestly say its one of the best era's in boxing. Is it cause most of the Champs are white? Serious question too. I mean there isnt 1 dominate champion.And especially 1 thats really exciting to watch. Although Wlad is starting to look alittle like Lennox though.


                I think there is a clear Ring mag champ -- Wlad.
                I think the HW division is very good thanks to a deep talent pool coming from Olympics (Wlad, Chagaev, Ibragimov, Povetkin). I think it is one of the best pools in the last 20 or so years.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by DiegoFuego
                  Can I edit my vote? I REALLY don't want my name next to CanadaJoe's or Nautilus' on ANYTHING.
                  Huh... who gives a s* about this?

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by DiegoFuego
                    Change the word "best" to "worst" and that's my actual vote. There is no way this division is even decent. It's easily the worst heavyweight division of all time in my book. Nobody outside of boxing can even name ONE of the heavyweight champions. That is bad.


                    You hate it because most of the dominant fighters come from former Soviet Union. You are not willing to give them credit for being good boxers. You can not go beyond your cold war mentality. Get over it.

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                    • DiegoFuego
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Nautilus
                      You hate it because most of the dominant fighters come from former Soviet Union. You are not willing to give them credit for being good boxers. You can not go beyond your cold war mentality. Get over it.
                      Just who is "dominant" in this division? Even if you "dominate"...look at the guys you're "dominating".

                      If Wladimir can knock out everyone in the division and unify all the belts, I will admit that he ruled the weaklings well.

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