Is the HW Division a Joke?

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  • Verstyle
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    #61
    It seems like this hw era fighters all fight the same.There really isnt a difference in style like there have been in past years. I havnt seen someone move or dance like Ali in years. Or them having an akward style like a Michael Spinks,or having speed and power like a Tyson.

    All the fighters of this era only have brute strength.They're no way mobile or try to change things up.Its the same fighting style practically. Take an old school fighter with different styles and it seems like they will do really good in the division. Even an old Holyfield looks better then alot of these new guys. He has speed and the power still and good combos to go along.

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    • leff
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      #62
      Originally posted by VERSATILE2K7
      It seems like this hw era fighters all fight the same.There really isnt a difference in style like there have been in past years. I havnt seen someone move or dance like Ali in years. Or them having an akward style like a Michael Spinks,or having speed and power like a Tyson.

      All the fighters of this era only have brute strength.They're no way mobile or try to change things up.Its the same fighting style practically. Take an old school fighter with different styles and it seems like they will do really good in the division. Even an old Holyfield looks better then alot of these new guys. He has speed and the power still and good combos to go along.
      what?

      wlad technican, mover puncher.

      peter wild strong ass, rock chin slugger.

      ibragimov tempo puncher.

      byrd counter puncher.

      vk very ackward

      brew relentless brawler

      there differences.

      but yepp there aint no one as explosive as tyson(thats rear)

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      • magik10
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        #63
        The HW devision is a "jab...jab...jab..jab..wait for the right and throw it" rinse n' repeat cycle. Too much of the sweet science and not enough proper fighting.

        You need not only a personality that appeals to the public but also an aggressive style to win fans over.

        Watching the Klitchko/Brewster fight today, which a great technical piece by Wladimir, was a bore and a half for anyone outside of boxing.

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          #64
          Originally posted by magik10
          The HW devision is a "jab...jab...jab..jab..wait for the right and throw it" rinse n' repeat cycle. Too much of the sweet science and not enough proper fighting.

          You need not only a personality that appeals to the public but also an aggressive style to win fans over.

          Watching the Klitchko/Brewster fight today, which a great technical piece by Wladimir, was a bore and a half for anyone outside of boxing.
          thats wlad not the entire divison, peter dont fight that way neither does ibragimow ore chagev

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          • j
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            #65
            this is a decent division right now. not super packed with talent, not completely **** either. i say **** whoever thinks otherwise because i'm sick of hearing the **** people say because the fighters they root for get their assses kicked or some other lame reasons.

            it may be that some people hate klitschko, who basically owns the division. it also may be that some people can't stand the fact that there is no american heavyweight champ - this may be a big reason for some of the people who think the heavyweight division is at a low point.

            It seems like this hw era fighters all fight the same.There really isnt a difference in style like there have been in past years. I havnt seen someone move or dance like Ali in years. Or them having an akward style like a Michael Spinks,or having speed and power like a Tyson.
            i would try to put up a thorough arguement, but i think you already have your mind set. no, they do not all fight the same. there is no division, ever in the history of boxing, where all the top ten guys are basically the same as far as skills and strategy. byrd isn't crafty? vitali isn't awkward? peter isn't the epitome of a power slugger? there is plenty of variations of skills. can't deny that.

            I havnt seen someone move or dance like Ali in years
            a good fighter doesn't necessarily have to dance like ali. i see what your getting at, but it really shouldn't matter bro.

            and fellas, please let diego fuego think whatever he wants. don't try to argue with him. it's not like he is considered an intelligent poster here.

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            • j
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              #66
              The HW devision is a "jab...jab...jab..jab..wait for the right and throw it" rinse n' repeat cycle. Too much of the sweet science and not enough proper fighting.

              You need not only a personality that appeals to the public but also an aggressive style to win fans over.

              Watching the Klitchko/Brewster fight today, which a great technical piece by Wladimir, was a bore and a half for anyone outside of boxing.
              too much sweet science? are you a boxing fan?

              boxing is not a popularity contest. you shouldn't have to have a magnetic personality.

              the klitschko fight may have been boring to you, fine. but you will not be taken seriously if you think wladimir klitschko is not an exciting fighter.

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              • leff
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                #67
                Originally posted by j
                too much sweet science? are you a boxing fan?

                boxing is not a popularity contest. you shouldn't have to have a magnetic personality.

                the klitschko fight may have been boring to you, fine. but you will not be taken seriously if you think wladimir klitschko is not an exciting fighter.
                saldy the big public aint boxing fans but violence fans which is why so many watched peek tyson and not the top hw fights today

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                • Joartcc3
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by !! SiN
                  The HW division today is clearly the worst in the entire history of the sport of boxing. It is absolutely pathetic that a guy like Lamon Brewster was even considered a top 10 fighter in the division but he was. He is a former WBO champion, but he couldn't land a single significant punch against Klitschko. It was an absolute mismatch. Brewster has no skill whatsoever.

                  Then we have Ibragimov as a titleholder when he was lucky to get a draw with the trash known as Ray Austin. Austin was destroyed in 2 rounds by Klitschko with no effort and this scrub was lucky to come away with a draw with the very same fighter just one fight earlier and now he's heavyweight champion?

                  The HW division today is a total joke...
                  Actually the HW division is not a joke. Just because the Russians is beating the crap out of your American guys can you validly call the division crap.

                  Only the most ****** guy will ever say that.

                  You're a joke.

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                  • j
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                    #69
                    saldy the big public aint boxing fans but violence fans which is why so many watched peek tyson and not the top hw fights today

                    i love violence bro! that is what boxing is when you strip down all the technical bull**** - it is legal assault!

                    but the public at large was dumb enough to be lured into the made up "fact" that tyson was the most dangerous man alive and unbeatable. real fact - nobody is unbeatable and tyson got most of his claim to fame as a knockout artist from fighting lower class opponents. just like anybody else who starts to get known for the big punch.

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                    • Joartcc3
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by leff
                      what?

                      wlad technican, mover puncher.

                      peter wild strong ass, rock chin slugger.

                      ibragimov tempo puncher.

                      byrd counter puncher.

                      vk very ackward

                      brew relentless brawler

                      there differences.

                      but yepp there aint no one as explosive as tyson(thats rear)
                      Agreed. There is variety in HW division now. The minor issue is that the Europeans are trouncing the rest of the division.

                      Of course there are several factors why the HW division on the American side has fallen badly.

                      But all in all it's an above average division which just needs polishing up and a little appreciation.

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