Is the HW Division a Joke?

[kayjay]

No, among any reasonable boxing fans. It's already getting hard to deny, the man just has better tools.

[tyson]

What do either of them do as well as Wlad? Wlad has better handspeed, better two-fisted power, better natural athleticism, better punch technique, more variation on how he throws the punches (he jabed from 100 different angles yesterday). It's hard to accept a contemporary guy is better than the 'all time' greats, especially if that guy transcends the stereotype of a boxer, but in this case we have it.

Wlad is not clearly better than either Lewis nor Holmes.
Wlad doesn't know how to be in a dogfight. Doesn't know how to do infighting. Both Lewis and Holmes did that, no problem.
Klitschko is very good, no doubt. Maybe he could beat them both, who knows?
But he's not clearly better in any way...

[Technical_Skill]

No, among any reasonable boxing fans. It's already getting hard to deny, the man just has better tools.

Agreed, he is probably better at DIY than Lewis,

inside a boxing ring? no.

[.Mik.]

Thought that you had better things to do than to debate this.

[kayjay]

Wlad is not clearly better than either Lewis nor Holmes.
Wlad doesn't know how to be in a dogfight. Doesn't know how to do infighting. Both Lewis and Holmes did that, no problem.
Klitschko is very good, no doubt. Maybe he could beat them both, who knows?
But he's not clearly better in any way...

Fair post.

[kayjay]

Thought that you had better things to do than to debate this.

He's my *****. He leaves when I tell him.

[Technical_Skill]

Thought that you had better things to do than to debate this.

Lol, here we go, you finished arguing with yourself in that empty room yet?

Who won the debate?

[.Mik.]

Lol, here we go, you finished arguing with yourself in that empty room yet?

Who won the debate?

I genuinely have no idea what you're talking about. I am merely asking why you're not doing what you say.

[Technical_Skill]

I genuinely have no idea what you're talking about. I am merely asking why you're not doing what you say.

I dont consider making a joke about Wlad being good at DIY 'Debating', if you do that's fine,

Now worry about yourself, and dont be wondering about me.

Im sure Kayjay is just trying to stir things up to find out this and that like usual,

you two should get together, you can be mulder and scully.

But if you wanna argue that Wladimir is much better than Lennox Lewis and Larry Holmes, at this moment i dont really wanna argue about it, if you do, please go for it.

[kayjay]

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I deleted it, but do you also know what I know, TS?