Do Gold Medals Mean Jack **** Anymore?

[Steelhammer86]

Dude why have deliberately misquoted me to make it look like i called you ****???

??? I don't know what you mean...you deliberately misquoted me (page one) and made it look like I called McNulty a ******.

[Steelhammer86]

Dont know any and never won one...but do know a few Olympic alternates...that count?

Sure they count...never said they didnt...and I do admit this thread is based on some bad researched info. Areola I guess didnt win the gold. Thats from wolfgang. Lacy...I thought he won teh gold but am only 90% on that...I always hear gold around Lacys name...and dont ask where...I'm not in the biz of sifting through threads.

Don't blame Wolfgang, it was your mistake...he didn't say Arreola won Gold, he said Odlanier Solis won Gold...you failed to read his post correctly.

[Technical_Skill]

??? I don't know what you mean...you deliberately misquoted me (page one) and made it look like I called McNulty a ******.

No mate i have never misquoted you,

Thing is mate, you cant edit my orginal post lol

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2490986#post2490986

This link proves you deliberaely mis quoted me, my orginal post is there, and you have changed the wording to make it look like it called you a ******ed ****, when i never said anything of the sort in this thread. My orginal post proves this. lol.

[Technical_Skill]

Again.

??? I don't know what you mean...you deliberately misquoted me (page one) and made it look like I called McNulty a ******.

No mate i have never misquoted you,

Thing is mate, you cant edit my orginal post lol

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2490986#post2490986

This link proves you deliberaely mis quoted me, my orginal post is there, and you have changed the wording to make it look like it called you a ******ed ****, when i never said anything of the sort in this thread. My orginal post proves this. lol.

[drvooh]

It seems that if you are American, it means something, if you are Euro...East Euro, you are hyped

[Sharkey]

It seems that if you are American, it means something

Unless you were one of those Americans at the 84 Games, which was filled with corruption, controversy, and a mostly world-wide view of some of the most blatant hometown favouritsm I've yet seen in an international style tournament.

Nine gold medals my ass!

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

Well, who on the 1984 team DIDNT deserve to win gold that did? And it would have been ten most likely if Holyfield didnt get DQ'd

[Sharkey]

Well, who on the 1984 team DIDNT deserve to win gold that did? And it would have been ten most likely if Holyfield didnt get DQ'd

Well, thanks for asking, John, and since you asked, I'd like to point out Frank Tate's firts fight in the tournament where he was given a gift of a decision against Ayed, to say nothing of the gold medal fight when the O'Sullivan was robbed of the gold, which also saw the American crowd boo, not only the decision in that final, but also the medal presentation (O'Sullivan got a loud cheer when he was presented his silver).

I'm also talking about the decision Jerry Page got against the Korean gold medal favourite, which was a decision also booed by the hometown crowd, and also saw the Korean boxing team threatening to pull out afterwards. There was also compliants about the decision Paul Gonzsales got in the first round against that Korean opponent, which was largle viewed as an "either way" type fight, but ended up being a wide 5-0 decision. The Page decision is significant in that in went a long way into the '88 Olympoics with the horrible Roy Jones decision against him, which was largely seen as a case of "an eye for an eye" by us non-American viewers of international boxing.

There was the decision Tillman got over Musone (who was announced as the original decision winner, only to see it overtuned by that 3-2 rule) in the heavyweight semis, which was another one that was booed by the crowd after they viewed him to be the clear winner of two of the rounds fought (one of those was a definate as he rocked/stunned Tillman a couple times in talking it clearly). Even the gold medal fight with DeWitt, while being fairly close and Tillman should be applauded for his efforts against the heavy favourite, was not without it's share of controversy (I thought DeWitt tookm it).

Their was the decision Breland got against Rudel Obreja, which was another decision booed by tjhe American crowd, as yet another one of the controversial decision that went the Americans way.

There was the gold medal final between Biggs & Damiani, which was quite controversial, and once again, saw the hometown crowd boo both the decision rendered and the medal presentations.

Virgil Hill had what was deemed a close and somewhat controversial fight earlier in the tournament too, I think, and I think I'm remembering that that was against Skaro.

Just a few that I can recall to memory, John, but it wasn't only the decisions rendered against them that brought out the universal complaints against the "hometown" officiating towards the U.S. team, but also all the 5-0 decision they were getting, which ended up being a streak of close to 20 in a row (which is/was VERY unlikely in international competition), or even the percieved quick stoppage the likes of Tillman were getting when against the Tongan, I believe it was.

The whole tournament stunk as far as boxing officiating went (even for amateur), and it even prompted Howard Cosell (who was calling it) to call it "an embarrassment" on television.

Just a few things I can recall.

[realheavyhands]

They Mean More Then The Amatures.. WELL SINCE IT IS AMATUER STYLE BOXING IT DOESNT REALLY MEAN MUCH

[ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY]

Their was the decision Breland got against Rudel Obreja, which was another decision booed by tjhe American crowd, as yet another one of the controversial decision that went the Americans way.

In Mark's defense, they boo'd him becauase he didnt go all out to score KO's like everyone expected from him that year....I don't think he lost the fight, I think he just wasnt exciting