Taylor Has No Chance Against Pavlik

[P29]

as much as i want pavlik to win, it would probably be taylor in the same old fashion criticise him all you want but at the moment he is undefeated and gets the job done!

[Easton Assassin]

people are overrating taylor's boxing "ability". hes not elusive like willie pep, he doesnt box and move like ali, he doesnt have power like louis, and he doesnt have jake lamotta's chin. the only thing really outstanding about taylor is his athleticism. honestly, from the time taylor won the title (in highly controversial and unimpressive fashion) until now, who has really been impressed by jermain taylor?

he beat hopkins = hopkins waited too long to go offensive.
draw with winky = winky didnt apply enough pressure.
win over ouma = a much smaller jr middleweight actually pressured the "champion" into the ropes and gave taylor a real fight when taylor was looking for a knockout opponent.
win over spinks = one of the worst fights i have ever seen, period. 'nuf said.

taylor has gotten this far on athleticism and HBO money, nothing more. even the guys who he was supposed to blow over (spinks and ouma) made him look the fool. he cant punch, he cant box, hes flat-footed, he doesnt move his head, he doesnt throw combinations, he doesnt move around, he doesnt exploit an opponents weakness, he doesnt even go into a fight with a goddamn gameplan (besides trying to knock ouma out).

and this guy is supposed to outbox and decision kelly pavlik? yeah, good one.

dont even try to say "taylor fights the better fighters". in their contender phases, pavlik fought fulgencio zuniga, bronco mckart, and jose luis zertuche. not great fighters, but top 20 MWs who never before were stopped. oh yeah, and pavlik beat this guy called edison miranda, a fighter who people were saying "hes unstoppable" adn "one touch and you're out", a fight he was expected to lose. the best guys taylor fought when he was a contender was an old beat up raul marquez and a never-has-been title-holder william joppy. spoon fed his whole career.

pavlik is the all around better fighter. theres nothing jermain taylor can do to beat pavlik. he cant outbox him and he damn sure cant outpunch him. all it takes is a small breeze to back taylor into the ropes. and punishing his opponents on the ropes is kelly pavlik's bread and butter. even if taylor tried to tie pavlik up, pavlik is bigger, stronger, and unlike taylor, he can fight on the inside.

pavlik by TKO. this fight isnt even close.

I like Pavlik. he has skill, but to say Taylor who is undisputed champ with two wins over Hopkins and a draw with Wright proves he can compete with any middleweight in the world. I pick talyor to outbox Pavlik. He wont trade like Miranda did!

[potatoes]

Anything can happen. I guess Pavlik has a chance, how good I cant say. Everyone has an opinion, and I could sort of see why some would think Pavlik can win. He has a great workrate. But to say that Taylor has NO CHANCE is ridiculous.

Taylor has almost no chance if he doesn't clean up his act. I have a su****ion he ain't gonna do it.

[boxing fanatic]

taylor vs pavlik

your comments are full of crap any fighter always has a punchers chance and taylor has more than that remember pavlic was down first taylor let him off the hook something he wont do this time around .listen why cant a white guy just win a title and you people be happy with that .with out making him the next white dope I mean hope.

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Why did you reply to this old ass thread?

[Kball15]

yea this was about the first fight.

Question: Does all this still apply to the second fight???

[aussieboxer2320]

How people would come up with Taylor by late stopage is beond me.

Just look at the stats.

Pavlik:
Hits harder with BOTH hands (28 of 31 wins by KO)
Has a higher punch output
Has a better chin
Has a 1 1/2 inch height advantage
Has a 1 inch reach advantage

Taylor:
Has a crisper jab, but less powerful
Holds his hands low
Is a one handed pucher (only 17 of 28 wins by KO)
Is the shorter man
Has a reach dissadvantage
Has an advantage in natural athletic ability

Seriously, Taylor doesnt have a chance of winning this fight by knock out. He doesnt hit hard enough, and Pavlik can take a punch to well. Taylor will have to use his only real asset he has. His jab.

If Taylor gets on his bike all night (I dont think he has the stamina to do that) and pot shots with his jab, he will win a decision. Otherwise, he will lose. He will get outworked regaurdless if he is the better boxer or not.

being the shorter man isnt a disadvantage, the shorter man work up close and cut off his opponents reach, but yes pavlik will win, because taylor is overrated

[Dorian]

i think taylor will get caught with a big punch again but as you saw in the first fight, anything can happen, and remember the judges


But Pavlik will win, and will get schooled by Calzaghe

[Horus]

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[ElGranLuchador]

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