why do you lot all give hatton stick?

[Technical_Skill]

TS, I've never seen you engage in a debate where you've conceded a single point or come to some sort of consensus.

For a sound bloke you worryingly seem to have given up on learning, you're completely satisfied with your knowledge of the world - and anything else is simply wrong.

For example....I've attended some 300 live football games, and only once have I heard any racism towards black players. I've heard plenty of racism towards Welsh, Scottish, Irish players etc, and ****phobia galore.

But anyway fella, Kayjay was listening to your posts, pay him the same ****ing courtesy or he may as well ignore you.

Why are you girls jumping the gun?

All im saying is racism still goes on in the UK game, although its not as bad as in other countires, only an idiot would deny this when fact prove this is the case. lol.

[kayjay]

Lol, link? and then i can find you a link where it says the illuminati rule the world and how certain races have orgins other than planet earth lol.

Do me a favor, ask any turkish person, they are not what we call 'White', yes they have a similar skin colour, but they are not white,

do black people acutally have black skin? lol.

I dont, im light skinned and women tell me i look very much like thierry henry.

Stop being silly. I wouldn't post something completely batty. You might call me "pseudo-intelligent" but I am more than a bit of a scholar and I understand what it's worth and isn't worth is to cite sources.

[Technical_Skill]

Show me proof of black players being abused in English football or shut the **** up and retract your statement.

Are you thick or ****** or both? the above link Proves racism is still existant in the english game, which is what i was saying,

I never said it only happens to black players,

Are you gonna sit there and says those 122 were ALL being racist to asians and not blacks?



Lol.

Read the article, im not retracting anything.

[Cletus Funk]

TS, you're embarassing yourself. Just take it like a man and admit that you were talking bollocks.

Ermm no i dont admit that, not in the UK, dont get me started on the racist abuse black players suffer down here

[kayjay]

You're overlooking distinctions between things like fan violence and discrimination against players, but I'll leave that.

By the way the quote I posted was from a legit Turkish history website. I won't link you directly you can sort through the Turkish language a bit if you care:

http://www.ozturkler.com/tr/index.php

[Technical_Skill]

Real talk, there are plenty of black managers in American sports; in that business they far exceed their % of the popluace.

And I said ATHLETES, not managers and fans. My point wasn't addressed let alone refuted.

You said SPORT didnt you ?

Which consists of managers and fans

Did you say that, cos im being outnumbered here, but i will go back and quote you if necessary.

[kayjay]

In my first post I said 'sport' but I understood it as 'athlete' since the cases in question were Johnson and Hatton. But I apologize for being imprecise myself.

[Technical_Skill]

TS, you're embarassing yourself. Just take it like a man and admit that you were talking bollocks.

Again are you thick or ******?

How does show me saying ONLY black suffer racial abuse in football games,

Are you telling me out of those 122 fans that were arrested not one single fan was racist to a black person?

especially when you consider there are hardly ANY asian players in the entire football league?

lol.

No mate, you look ******, you got your link and your lesson, stop trying to save face.

[Cletus Funk]

Back up your statement of black players suffering abuse. It's that simple.

Again are you thick or ******?

How does show me saying ONLY black suffer racial abuse in football games,

Are you telling me out of those 122 fans that were arrested not one single fan was racist to a black person?

especially when you consider there are hardly ANY asian players in the entire football league?

lol.

No mate, you look ******, you got your link and your lesson, stop trying to save face.

[Technical_Skill]

Back up your statement of black players suffering abuse. It's that simple.

http://sport.guardian.co.uk/columnists/story/0,,1704757,00.html

Easy, Article about the racist and ****phobic abuse sol campbell suffered from Spurs fans

Extracts

"This is it to the tune of Lord of the Dance: Sol, Sol, wherever you may be/You're on the verge of lunacy/And we don't give a **** if you're hanging from a tree/You Judas **** with HIV."

No wonder he sent it rather than sang it. To its credit, it is a brilliantly tight verse, addressing any number of prejudices in four little lines. There's something to offend everybody here - the mentally ill, HIV sufferers, gay people, women, with an allusion to racist lynching thrown in for good measure.

When the White Hart Lane faithful tired of this chant they reverted to the following classic ...

"He's big/He's black/He takes it up the crack/Sol Campbell, Sol Campbell."


Also

As for the racist chants, we were quick enough and smug enough to point out when Spain fans made monkey grunts at our black players. So don't we have a responsibility to highlight the same de****able behaviour of our fans?

Thats your second lesson today now, i gotta get back to talking with KJ