Ellerbe: "Hatton, Want Floyd? Sign The Contract!"

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Tszyu had already fought in different time zones so presumably it was not something that was new to him. However, I don't see what the problem is with wanting to give yourself the best possible chance of victory. Hatton knows that if he is to beat Mayweather he is going to need the performance of his life coupled with a bit of luck so it would seem almost suicidal to jeopardise his chances in such an obvious way. I also reckon their were financial reasons behind the decision.

I would be surprised if Tszyu ever fough at 2am local time.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Floyd and others receive copious and brutal criticism if they decline a fight. But if Hatton does it, there are myriad "logical" reasons.

I see,

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

My information is that the fight has never been that close to being made and that both camps saw the financial potential in the fight from the outset which is why neither camp was pushing for it heavily at the time.

from the (many) articles I posted, the fight was offered to Hatton on several occasions. Apparently, at least ONE of the camps was pushing for it.

[majestiC]

Dios, to be fair this is how I see it, there both as bad as each other, the fight at Manchester at the time Mayweather declined it, it would have made more money at the time in Manchester. Hatton didn't want his first fight in the U.S vs Mayweather. So they both went thier own routes, im just hoping the fight can be made now.

[Mozza]

from the (many) articles I posted, the fight was offered to Hatton on several occasions. Apparently, at least ONE of the camps was pushing for it.

There were reservations from Mayweather's camp about UK interest in the fight which is why I don't think you can say they were pushing for it. No doubt the fight was discussed but I think it is a misrepresentation to say that Hatton ducked Mayweather.

[PRboxingfan]

What are u a stpid ******?! Why the **** would PBF want to fight Hatton in england. All Ricky has to do is survive till the fight is over. Then the judges will give ricky the win! The fight has to be made in vegas. I dont see this fighting happening

1. Ricky the bum is asking for to much money
2. Ricky wants to fight in england
n e ways PBF would easily win. But I still dont see this fight happening

There are two places the fight can be made: Las Vegas and Manchester. Anywhere else will not have the draw capacity to pay the two fighters what they want. LV would be good but not as much money will be generated there. However, if they fight in Manchester, the gate alone will be enough to pay 80% of the fighters' asking price. They can fight in a Soccer stadium and fit 90-100 thousand fans there, easily.

That's why I believe that this fight must take place in the UK. Floyd is a businessman and he knows this. If he doesn't want to go to England then he is pricing himself out of the fight, it's that simple.

Hatton would beat any of the current LW belt holders and you seem to have forgot that he is The Ring champ at 140.

As for the Ring belt, it doesn't promote a fight as well as saying it's for the WBC championship/belt. Most people, the casual fans, don't care about the ring belt.

Oh, and I think Paulie would beat him by UD.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Mozza, Ray Hatton remembers it differently

There were reservations from Mayweather's camp about UK interest in the fight which is why I don't think you can say they were pushing for it. No doubt the fight was discussed but I think it is a misrepresentation to say that Hatton ducked Mayweather.

Mayweather wanted the fight on US soil, which is where his fanbase is.

Hatton HAD to come to the US to ply his wares - there's no comp in Europe.


The final analysis is that Team Mayweather offered Hatton a fight:

Father and business manager openly admitted they turned down the chance to at least negotiation for a Mayweather fight in 2004. "That was the one fight, style wise, which I thought we needed a few more fights before taking," said father Ray Hatton.

I find it telling that even Ray Hatton admits that they turned the fight down for skill/stylistic reasons....but YOU are loathe to admit that. Interesting, indeed.

[Mozza]

There are two places the fight can be made: Las Vegas and Manchester. Anywhere else will not have the draw capacity to pay the two fighters what they want. LV would be good but not as much money will be generated there. However, if they fight in Manchester, the gate alone will be enough to pay 80% of the fighters' asking price. They can fight in a Soccer stadium and fit 90-100 thousand fans there, easily.

That's why I believe that this fight must take place in the UK. Floyd is a businessman and he knows this. If he doesn't want to go to England then he is pricing himself out of the fight, it's that simple.




As for the Ring belt, it doesn't promote a fight as well as saying it's for the WBC championship/belt. Most people, the casual fans, don't care about the ring belt.

Oh, and I think Paulie would beat him by UD.

The Ring Belt may not promote a fight as well but it seemed to me that the point you were trying to make was that Hatton somehow lacked credibility because he didn't hold one of the boxing federations' belts. I think Malignaggi would give him the best test of all the champions but I see the fight going the same way as Cotto v Malignaggi.

Also, I hear that Hatton's next fight in the UK could be at the 02 Arena in London (formerly the Millennium Dome).

[toyboy33]

There are two places the fight can be made: Las Vegas and Manchester. Anywhere else will not have the draw capacity to pay the two fighters what they want. LV would be good but not as much money will be generated there. However, if they fight in Manchester, the gate alone will be enough to pay 80% of the fighters' asking price. They can fight in a Soccer stadium and fit 90-100 thousand fans there, easily.

That's why I believe that this fight must take place in the UK. Floyd is a businessman and he knows this. If he doesn't want to go to England then he is pricing himself out of the fight, it's that simple.




As for the Ring belt, it doesn't promote a fight as well as saying it's for the WBC championship/belt. Most people, the casual fans, don't care about the ring belt.

Oh, and I think Paulie would beat him by UD.

Seriously, You don't think PBF would rather lose a few million and have the comfort of being on US soil? You know yourself, Hatton fans wil travel to the US. I doubt very many Mayweather suppporters will travel to the UK. In effect he'll have to fight Hatton and his wrestling tactics, the refs who support his hug and punch style and 60,000 rabid fans. Floyd aint crazy. I don't see this fight happening in the UK.

[majestiC]

PRBoxingFan, not to be picky or anything, but there are two football stadiums in Manchester, City's 48000 and Utd's 77000 there is no way in hell Ricky would fight at old trafford, he would rather kill himself. If this fight were to be made it would have to be at Wembley, 90,000. But Mayweather said he won't fight in England, but Oscar will. I would love to see Hatton vs Cotto in New York or Wembley, more than Hatton vs Mayweather.

[Mozza]

Mayweather wanted the fight on US soil, which is where his fanbase is.

Hatton HAD to come to the US to ply his wares - there's no comp in Europe.


The final analysis is that Team Mayweather offered Hatton a fight:

Father and business manager openly admitted they turned down the chance to at least negotiation for a Mayweather fight in 2004. "That was the one fight, style wise, which I thought we needed a few more fights before taking," said father Ray Hatton.

I find it telling that even Ray Hatton admits that they turned the fight down for skill/stylistic reasons....but YOU are loathe to admit that. Interesting, indeed.

I am not dis*****g that Hatton's camp were not keen to take the fight at the time for whatever reasons but I am also saying that Mayweather's camp were not desperate for the fight either.