Tszyu Was Rated #3 p4p When Hatton Defeated Him

[hugh grant]

Nah, u know what, i dont think that was it,

Might have something to do with being an undefeated multi weight world champion.

Being top p4p is always under scrutiny anyway and can chop and change. So boxers always have to prove themselves and justify there right to be ranked the way they are. The boy done good in beating DLH, but there is always another challenge around the corner if you want it.
If Hatton or Cotto could beat PBF, PBF wouldnt deserve that No1 p4p ranking, even though he has 5 divisions on his resume. IF he couldnt beat Hatton or Cotto it would just reveal that he was able to win in 5 divisions without neccesarily having being able to beat a fighter like Hatton etc.

[Guest]

Here a question, how many fighters has ricky hatton faced that have ever been in the top 10 p4p?

So far i can think of two, Kosta and Castillo.

And he hasnt even fought castillo yet.

If you ask certain questions, you get certain answers.

I think this is a better question:

Who had a better career after 38 fights, Hatton or Mayweather? Tough one...

[.Mik.]

Not making excuses. I'm stating facts.


You may not start threads, but you're quick to jump in them just like this one...

Nah...you're making excuses about why Floyd hasnt fought any high top P4P fighters. He doesnt need you to do that for him, remember?

I 'jump' into threads where you are being biased and coming up with ridiculously one-sided arguments to offer the other side. You START those arguments, you dont offer another side to the argument because they are YOUR arguments. You initiate them, you are biased.

i was agreeing with him and saying in a general sense "dont yall even try to discredit him" probably because i was typing how i speak it came off as an attack, i was merely adding to his statement but i used the wrong wording. But thats not how i meant it. But thank you for your input

No mate. You were trying to attack him because you thought that he was being snarky about your beloved Floyd whereas the opposite was actually true. At least man up and admit it, instead of this feeble attempt to backtrack.

[Technical_Skill]

Okay then, maybe it is a contributory factor.



The point being that your point was utterly redundant.

Yes Mayweather has fought more people who have entered the top 10 over the course of their career. Yes the strength in depth of his resume is better than Hatton's. Yes he has achieved more titles at more weights in his career. Yes he is more deserving of his place at the top of the P4P rankings than Hatton would be if he were placed there. HOWEVER, as virtually NOBODY places Hatton at the top of the P4P list...what is your point? Furthermore, what is the point in making your point?



I could sit here and say: "Tyson had pretty fast handspeed and punched pretty hard". But as virtually nobody is disagreeing with that statement...what is the point in me doing that?



I dont imagine that anyone worth listening to here would say that Hatton ought to be higher up the rankings than PBF. The point of this thread is that Hatton's biggest win is better than PBF's biggest win. Try debating or agreeing to that, rather than making irrelevant points that nobody is arguing about.

1) To me mayweather beating de la hoya was more impressive than Hatton's win over Kosta

-Mayweather weighed 148, and gave up nearly a stone to DLH on fight night
-It was mayweather's 1st fight at 154
-It was mayweather's 5th weight class
-De La Hoya is a better fighter than Kosta Tszyu imo
-Mayweather used oscar gloves and fought in a smaller ring in oscar's backyard on cinco de mayo

2) My point is stated above clearly so that even you can see it

"If you ask a certain question, you will get a certain answer",

you do the math.

[Guest]

Nah...you're making excuses about why Floyd hasnt fought any high top P4P fighters. He doesnt need you to do that for him, remember?

I 'jump' into threads where you are being biased and coming up with ridiculously one-sided arguments to offer the other side. You START those arguments, you dont offer another side to the argument because they are YOUR arguments. You initiate them, you are biased.

Why would I argue both sides?

Glad to see you ignored the rest of my post. You can't argue facts...

[El Jesus]

No mate. You were trying to attack him because you thought that he was being snarky about your beloved Floyd whereas the opposite was actually true. At least man up and admit it, instead of this feeble attempt to backtrack.

I have given you the respect of admitting what i said didint come out right, and i have ignored your insulting me and have told you that you are entitled to your opinion.

I have been established on this board as someone who doesnt engage in rediculous flame wars or feeble insults for the sake of insulting. You can either accept the fact i made a mistake, or you can dwell on it like your doing now. Your entitled to do what you like.

[.Mik.]

Why would I argue both sides?

Glad to see you ignored the rest of my post. You can't argue facts...

The point is that you START the arguments. I join them to give the other side.

I'm glad you enjoyed me ignoring the rest of your excuses. I dont have time to sit and read loads of excuses. Thought you'd appreciate some familiar behaviour.

[El Jesus]

1) To me mayweather beating de la hoya was more impressive than Hatton's win over Kosta

-Mayweather weighed 148, and gave up nearly a stone to DLH on fight night
-It was mayweather's 1st fight at 154
-It was mayweather's 5th weight class
-De La Hoya is a better fighter than Kosta Tszyu imo
-Mayweather used oscar gloves and fought in a smaller ring in oscar's backyard on cinco de mayo

2) My point is stated above clearly so that even you can see it

"If you ask a certain question, you will get a certain answer",

you do the math.

I think something else that has to be asked is,...when did tszyu EVER plan on facing floyd mayweather? He wouldnt even mention mayweather even when mayweather moved up, the fight could have been made immediately after tszyu felt he was in shape. Tszyu never had any intention of facing mayweather.

[.Mik.]

I have given you the respect of admitting what i said didint come out right, and i have ignored your insulting me and have told you that you are entitled to your opinion.

I have been established on this board as someone who doesnt engage in rediculous flame wars or feeble insults for the sake of insulting. You can either accept the fact i made a mistake, or you can dwell on it like your doing now. Your entitled to do what you like.

Yes mate. Thats why you deleted the part where you e-shouted at the guy for agreeing with you.

I KNOW that you made a mistake, the mistake was that you chided someone because you werent reading properly. I'd be pleased to know that you could admit to that.

[Guest]

The point is that you START the arguments. I join them to give the other side.

I'm glad you enjoyed me ignoring the rest of your excuses. I dont have time to sit and read loads of excuses. Thought you'd appreciate some familiar behaviour.

At least you admit that you make nothing but excuses for Hatton and Calzaghe. Like I said, I have no need to make excuses. When Mayweather was offered a big fight, he took it. When Hatton and Calzaghe are offered big fights, they're out looking for the Urangos and Manfredos of the world...