What is the status of Floyd's belts? Is he 147 or 154 champion?

[jack_the_rippuh]

Let me ask a related topic: When does Floyd's P4P status dissolve? He is retired right, and the P4P title is for active boxers...

When we are certain that he's retired.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Let me ask a related topic: When does Floyd's P4P status dissolve? He is retired right, and the P4P title is for active boxers...

Yeah. It would. If any of us actually BELIEVED that PBF was retired.

To the best of my knowledge, you don't submit "retirement" papers for boxing as you would for the NFL or MLB. So "retired" is just a word. As long as his boxing license doesn't lapse.

[jack_the_rippuh]

If he gives back his license.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

If he gives back his license.

But has anyone EVER done that unless the State Commission told them to? You just allow it to expire, and not renew. Nobody relinquishes it early.

[jack_the_rippuh]

But has anyone EVER done that unless the State Commission told them to? You just allow it to expire, and not renew. Nobody relinquishes it early.

Yeah. I'm just saying if he did that, it would be more believable.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Yeah. I'm just saying if he did that, it would be more believable.

I feel you. It's just not believable either way.

You can't simultaneously announce your "retirement" and be publicly asking Oscar for a rematch. Nahmean?

This "retirement" is a business move that gives PBF negotiating leverage ("you want me to come out of retirement to fight you? You will have to pay me extra")