About Boxing vs. MMA

[Sandro17]

Why have'nt any of the big names of MMA and Boxing tried to look for a Boxing representative and put him in the Octagon and have an MMA representative and put him in a boxing ring to shut everyone up about whod win?

Would'nt everyone pay to see something like that?

[squealpiggy]

MMA organisations wouldn't be able to afford to pay elite boxers, and there's no interest in journeymen or even former contenders fighting in, for example, the UFC.

[Kakutogi-Gumi]

It could happen. The UFC has money. Pro Elite has Gary Shaw.

The problem is that if both companies wanted to throw something like this, they'd be after known boxers rather then just good boxers. They'd rather have Floyd or Gatti in there rather then Cintron or Pavlik.

Also, we got to be honest here, boxing have been the agressor in this debate. They've have been the ones opening their mouth about MMA. Everyone in MMA knows they'd be schooled in Boxing and haven't open their mouth. And those that do open their mouth do have competent boxing training in their corner.

but MMA was content with where it was before Mayweather talked about it and they'll be content after. It's people in boxing who are somehow not confident where the sport is to have them talking like that.

[lennon]

It could happen. The UFC has money. Pro Elite has Gary Shaw.

The problem is that if both companies wanted to throw something like this, they'd be after known boxers rather then just good boxers. They'd rather have Floyd or Gatti in there rather then Cintron or Pavlik.

Also, we got to be honest here, boxing have been the agressor in this debate. They've have been the ones opening their mouth about MMA. Everyone in MMA knows they'd be schooled in Boxing and haven't open their mouth. And those that do open their mouth do have competent boxing training in their corner.

but MMA was content with where it was before Mayweather talked about it and they'll be content after. It's people in boxing who are somehow not confident where the sport is to have them talking like that.

Dana White started this in 2002 when he held an event at the Royal Albert Hall in London, Frank Warren had a show on that seem week and Dana was on radio constantly challenging Frank Warren to send one of his boxers to challenge his fighters, the name he kept calling for was Ricky Hatton. That was ridiculous but it was a great way for Dana to build publicity for his little show, in 2002 it really was underground in the UK especially. Ever since Dana has used that as a marketing strategy.

[BIGPOPPAPUMP]

It could happen. The UFC has money. Pro Elite has Gary Shaw.

The problem is that if both companies wanted to throw something like this, they'd be after known boxers rather then just good boxers. They'd rather have Floyd or Gatti in there rather then Cintron or Pavlik.

Also, we got to be honest here, boxer have been the agressor in this debate. They've have been the ones opening their mouth about MMA. Everyone in MMA knows they'd be schooled in Boxing and haven't open their mouth. And those that do open their mouth do have competent boxing training in their corner.

but MMA was content with where it was before Mayweather talked about it and they'll be content after. It's people in boxing who are somehow not confident where the sport is to have them talking like that.

White can't do a single interview without bitching about a boxing pay-per-view or a boxing promotion.

The UFC will NEVER pay top dollar for a boxier to fight on one of their events. You want to hear never, I said NEVER. The minute they flash money like that, all of the guys they pimp to work their shows for 3-7K a pop, while they make 40-million of the cards, will demand more money and even the guys at the top like Rampage will ask for a much fatter check.

It must kill some of those guys to see a boxing B level fighter making more money than a UFC main eventer, and a boxing main eventer making more than the entire UFC pay-per-view roster.

[1bad65]

The guys who make the 3k-7k are usually fighting the 'dark matches'. While boxing does pay their top-level guys alot more than top-level mma does, alot of the guys making the 3k-7k have less than 10 fights. The only boxers making that kind of money with that few fights are guys with big names or very good amateur careers.

From my experience, mma guys make more than boxers in the early parts of their careers, but once they get to the prospect stage and beyond, the boxers make alot more.

[Deeznuts]

Im tired of this fkn argument

[Kakutogi-Gumi]

True.

That's Dana White. He's more into making UFC popular, rather then MMA. If we lived in a perfect world, we'd be talking about the great Organizations in the world in MMA rather then one. But we're not and we're stuck with a MacMahon wannabe as a mouthpiece. So.....

I also agree about the money issue, but just want to point out that over the seven years Zuffa own the UFC, they're just now pulling in a profit. So if someone wanted to be after a huge chunk of the PPV share, it'll still be a bit shallow after expenses.

[Deeznuts]

True.

That's Dana White. He's more into making UFC popular, rather then MMA. If we lived in a perfect world, we'd be talking about the great Organizations in the world in MMA rather then one. But we're not and we're stuck with a MacMahon wannabe as a mouthpiece. So.....

I also agree about the money issue, but just want to point out that over the seven years Zuffa own the UFC, they're just now pulling in a profit. So if someone wanted to be after a huge chunk of the PPV share, it'll still be a bit shallow after expenses.

Also, we got to be honest here, boxing have been the agressor in this debate. They've have been the ones opening their mouth about MMA.

So im assuming you take this back?

[BIGPOPPAPUMP]

The guys who make the 3k-7k are usually fighting the 'dark matches'. While boxing does pay their top-level guys alot more than top-level mma does, alot of the guys making the 3k-7k have less than 10 fights. The only boxers making that kind of money with that few fights are guys with big names or very good amateur careers.

From my experience, mma guys make more than boxers in the early parts of their careers, but once they get to the prospect stage and beyond, the boxers make alot more.

Quinton Jackson ($225,000) def. Chuck Liddell ($500,000) by KO - R1
Karo Parisyan ($32,000) def. Josh Burkman ($7,000) by unanimous decision
Terry Martin ($12,000) def. Ivan Salaverry ($17,500) by TKO - R1
Houston Alexander ($8,000) def. Keith Jardine ($7,000) by TKO - R1
Kalib Starnes ($10,000) def. Chris Leben ($10,000) by unanimous decision
Thiago Silva ($16,000) def. James Irvin ($7,000) by TKO - Round 1, 1:06
Alan Belcher ($14,000) def. Sean Salmon ($3,000) by guillotine choke - R1
Din Thomas ($28,000) def. Jeremy Stephens ($3,000) by armbar - R2
Wilson Gouveia ($16,000) def. Cermelo Marrero ($5,000) by guillotine choke R1