Would Floyd Mayweather Defeat a Prime De La Hoya?

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  • hugh grant
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    #21
    Originally posted by Black Jesus
    Seeing as how both shane mosley and pernell whitaker gave him the fights of his life, there is no reason to suggest floyd wouldnt do the same. DLH in his prime wouldnt be fighting at 154, he would be at 147, which makes it even worse for him. There is nothing to suggest that Floyd wouldnt beat him at a weight that suits him even better.
    Whos to say Pernell and Mosely arent better than PBF? Its not so much to do with weight rather than how good a fighter you are! DLH has beaten better boys than PBF has.
    Hes beaten Witaker and Chavez and a few others i cant remember the names of. As i have said we saw what happened when they fought. It was close. In DLHs prime, when he WAS actually rated p4p he would have nicked it in my humbe opinion.

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      #22
      Originally posted by CanadaJoe
      But Shannon Briggs had a 52 pound weight advantage over Sultan Ibragimov last Saturday, and still lost rather convincingly. Size is more important in sex than in boxing.

      Anyway, De La Hoya used to fight at welterweight in his prime, and he started out at lightweight just like Mayweather, so he's not really bigger at all! As Floyd is getting older and filling out he's moving up the weight classes just like a lot of boxers do.
      You are completely wrong. Infact there was a article on here before the fight talking about how big of a weight difference it is. Please dont bring up HWs where there is no weight limit. Oscar is much bigger then Floyd and Floyd has not moved up naturaly. Oscar was a huge lightweight while Floyd was really small and Oscar has been up in weight for years while Floyd is just starting to move up and he did it rapidly. Its not the same at all.

      Here is the article. I just found it http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=8500
      Last edited by DLT; 06-09-2007, 07:41 PM.

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        #23
        Originally posted by hugh grant
        DLH has beaten better boys than PBF has.
        Not true, De La Hoya has lost all of his biggest fights and lost to Mayweather, their respective primes aren't far apart considering the fact that De La Hoya is only 4 years older, not some old beaten fighter by any means. Floyd would of beaten him even worse a few years ago at welter weight..

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          #24
          Dlh isnt much past it. But he is a different generation to PBF. DLH made his reputation in the past before PBF came on the scene. It is not like Duran and SRL who were creating their reputations at the same time before they collided with each other. They were both genuine greats when they first collided.
          The equivalent for PBF would be someone like Hatton (although im not saying Hatton is as great as Duran) who is creating waves at the same time as PBF is doing.

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            #25
            I really believe De La Hoya was at his best at super-feather, while Mayweather was at his very best at light-welter against Gatti and light against Corrales.

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              #26
              oscar would have won to active, higher punch output
              mayweather doesnt punch enough at 147,154 to win dec against a prime oscar at 147,154
              but at 140 it would be close but id give the edge to floyd and he would have
              beat oscar at 135 130

              for those who use the pernell as an example to suggest that mayweather can get by oscar at 147
              floyd isnt as elusive as pernell not even in his class when it comes to D if a old pernell could argubably win against a prime oscar then it should show u how beatable floyd is at welter and above if he could barely get by a older oscar
              a prime pernell fought the oscar or mayweather that should up on may 5 he would have schooled them both on samenight

              mayweather at 147 hasnt shown the ability to fight the same kind of fight a prime mosley fought against oscar

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                #27
                A prime DLH would have had the same tough time figuring out Mayweather Jr.. I mean, y'all saw it when he fought a past his prime Whitaker!! Whitaker and Mayweather Jr. are pretty close in talent, Mayweather has more pop than Sweet Pea. DLH back then would've tried to box Mayweather, he wouldn't have gone after Mayweather like he did in their fight. As we've already seen in DLH, he has been tentative in all his fights against slick fighters .

                This fight is just a toss up no matter which stage of their careers these two would've faced each other. Frankly, I don't wanna see it.
                Last edited by We want Floyd; 06-09-2007, 07:58 PM.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by GEOFFHAYES
                  I really believe De La Hoya was at his best at super-feather, while Mayweather was at his very best at light-welter against Gatti and light against Corrales.
                  DLH was at his best at 130lbs. because there was no one there that was comparable to his physical attributes, he was simply fighting C to C+ level talent, but, he started facing guys that could match his speed and he didn't look all that great, in fact, he dissapointed more than impress us all. Being the best is beating guys you're not supposed to beat or fighting guys equal to your abilities, DLH did none of 'em or atleast he did not look impressive in doing so, many questions were still left after he beat an old Whitaker and Quartey

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by 2120
                    oscar would have won to active, higher punch output
                    mayweather doesnt punch enough at 147,154 to win dec against a prime oscar at 147,154
                    but at 140 it would be close but id give the edge to floyd and he would have
                    beat oscar at 135 130

                    for those who use the pernell as an example to suggest that mayweather can get by oscar at 147
                    floyd isnt as elusive as pernell not even in his class when it comes to D if a old pernell could argubably win against a prime oscar then it should show u how beatable floyd is at welter and above if he could barely get by a older oscar
                    a prime pernell fought the oscar or mayweather that should up on may 5 he would have schooled them both on samenight

                    mayweather at 147 hasnt shown the ability to fight the same kind of fight a prime mosley fought against oscar
                    Floyd has been less active but I think some of it is due to his opponents. If he fought a different style guy like a Cotto or Margarito then I think he would be more active.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by 2120
                      oscar would have won to active, higher punch output
                      mayweather doesnt punch enough at 147,154 to win dec against a prime oscar at 147,154
                      but at 140 it would be close but id give the edge to floyd and he would have
                      beat oscar at 135 130

                      for those who use the pernell as an example to suggest that mayweather can get by oscar at 147
                      floyd isnt as elusive as pernell not even in his class when it comes to D if a old pernell could argubably win against a prime oscar then it should show u how beatable floyd is at welter
                      Floyd is alot more elusive than the past his prime Whitaker that faced DLH. Are you kiddin' me. DLH would've looked the same way he has looked against slick fighters!!! The way DLH fought Mayweather on 5/07, was actually better than how he would probably fought Mayweather lets say '96, '97

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