Attn all Vitali Klitschko haters.

[vB Martin]

Why does Wlad have such a weak chin? He has had one loss where his chin was the deciding factor, and it was against one of the hardest hitting southpaws ever.

Wlad was crawling back towards his corner after Lamon Brewster cold****ed his ass not because of his chin but because ________________.

(please fill in the blank)

[Neuraxis]

I have seen no "evidence" offered as to why Wlad lost to 2 fighters he should have beaten easily if he's all the Klit fans say he is.
All I've heard is crap about drugging, vaseline, lack of humidifiers, Emmanuel Steward, etc. Always some excuse.

My favorite was the Klingons. At least that one was believable.

Vitali has a chance at greatness. All he needs to to beat Chris Byrd convincingly and have some real competition materialize out of nowhere. I think the best fights he can make right now are against Golota, a legitimate threat if he doesn't crack up in the ring, Toney, a fan favorite and Jameel McLine, if for no other reason than to show he can beat up big guys, too.

Wlad has a chance, too. I only count him out in the meantime. I think it will be a long, hard road for him to recover, and I stick by my idea that he needs to drop 15 lbs or so to help him with his endurance and balance. He just doesn't have the frame to carry 245 lbs gracefully.

I've already given my opinion as to why he lost those fights numerous times here. I imagine that you can find them somewhere.

[Neuraxis]

Wlad was crawling back towards his corner after Lamon Brewster cold****ed his ass not because of his chin but because ________________.

(please fill in the blank)

Exaustion and getting hit with an illegal rabbit punch after the round was over. He was hit with some pretty good shots and if his chin is so weak shouldn't he have gone down during the round?

[vB Martin]

He was already on his way down when the rabbit punch came. He was flinging his arms at the bell, too, so none of the crap. Hitting during the ringing of the bell happens all the time in boxing, therefore the caution, "protect yourself at all times". It wasn't a blatant foul, just incidental.

And if he's all the fanbase makes him, he shouldn't have been that tired that early in a world championship fight. There are no excuses for being that badly out of shape if you're fighting for a world title.

[Neuraxis]

He was already on his way down when the rabbit punch came. He was flinging his arms at the bell, too, so none of the crap. Hitting during the ringing of the bell happens all the time in boxing, therefore the caution, "protect yourself at all times". It wasn't a blatant foul, just incidental.

And if he's all the fanbase makes him, he shouldn't have been that tired that early in a world championship fight. There are no excuses for being that badly out of shape if you're fighting for a world title.

Who ever said it was a blatant foul? Blatant or not is it legal to hit after the bell?

He was throwing 70 punches per round, and he was using Manny's style for the first time, which requires more footwork, so he would tire out more quickly than usual.

[vB Martin]

so manny is to blame? did manny just show up the day before the fight and say, "fight like this!", ow was manny part of the camp for the entire training session?

[Sir_Jose]

I have seen no "evidence" offered as to why Wlad lost to 2 fighters he should have beaten easily if he's all the Klit fans say he is.
All I've heard is crap about drugging, vaseline, lack of humidifiers, Emmanuel Steward, etc. Always some excuse.

My favorite was the Klingons. At least that one was believable.

Vitali has a chance at greatness. All he needs to to beat Chris Byrd convincingly and have some real competition materialize out of nowhere. I think the best fights he can make right now are against Golota, a legitimate threat if he doesn't crack up in the ring, Toney, a fan favorite and Jameel McLine, if for no other reason than to show he can beat up big guys, too.

Wlad has a chance, too. I only count him out in the meantime. I think it will be a long, hard road for him to recover, and I stick by my idea that he needs to drop 15 lbs or so to help him with his endurance and balance. He just doesn't have the frame to carry 245 lbs gracefully.

Dont forget Wlad was also been TKO'ed by the great Ross Purity

[Neuraxis]

so manny is to blame? did manny just show up the day before the fight and say, "fight like this!", ow was manny part of the camp for the entire training session?

Who is saying Manny is to blame? Its as much Manny's fault as it is Wladimir's. No he didn't show up the day before the fight. Lewis retired on Feb. 6 and Wlad fought Brewster on May 10. Even if Manny started training Wlad the day that Lewis retired which he didn't, that's a short amount of time to learn a new style and execute it perfectly.

[Neuraxis]

Dont forget Wlad was also been TKO'ed by the great Ross Purity

Did you see the fight? My bad that is an obvious no. Purrity was rocking Wlad late in the fight, and Wlad didn't go down from a punch, and his corner stopped the fight.

[vB Martin]

Dont forget Wlad was also been TKO'ed by the great Ross Purity

I'll give him that one, though. It was early enough in his career, and he had never faced as durable an opponent prior to Purity.
I would have thought, though, that someone claiming to be a doctor of sports science (wtf?) wouldn't have thought the cure for getting exhausted in a hard 12 rd fight at 225 would be to add another 20 lbs of muscle.