Did you see the fight? My bad that is an obvious no. Purrity was rocking Wlad late in the fight, and Wlad didn't go down from a punch, and his corner stopped the fight.
Who is saying Manny is to blame? Its as much Manny's fault as it is Wladimir's. No he didn't show up the day before the fight. Lewis retired on Feb. 6 and Wlad fought Brewster on May 10. Even if Manny started training Wlad the day that Lewis retired which he didn't, that's a short amount of time to learn a new style and execute it perfectly.
it was an honest question, not being a smartass.
Wlad just fought a bad fight. He should have realized after the pouding the guy took and stood through for the first 3-1/2 rounds that he wasn't as light as the book said and adjusted. That's what boxers do. When plan A isn't working, go to plan B. I don't think he had a plan B, and couldn't sort it out on his feet.
Vitali still has a ways to go to become a complete fighter. I respect his boxing ability, but for me the jury's still out on his defense, footwork and his killer instinct.
Not sure I understand this one. Killer instinct? The guy has a 95% KO ratio out of his wins. Only one man out of 34 victories ended the fight on his feet. ........... ?????????
vitali has my respect any body who risks thier lives for a living has my respect. i just dont like him but he would get on my good side if he were to fight his brother(just to see if he would knock his own brother out) or a top ten heavy like ruiz or rahman.
Vitali has my respect as a fighter, I just don't think he should be considered great yet. The real problem isn't Vitali, it's Wlad and the blind support he gets from many fans. Alot of the fanatical fans are unreasonable and make too many excuses for their guy. I respect the fact that the Brothers have such a huge and loyal fan base, I just wish it was easier to have a conversation with them. By the way, I hate the term "hater". Sounds like gradeschool lingo. If one thinks Vitali or any fighter has issues, that doesn't always mean they are hating..it could be reality.
Alot of times, the Brothers take more heat than they deserve becuase the fans are so unreasonable. (not all, some)
ps- Torino, I can feel one of your "to fit your own agenda" routines coming
You've earned a pass ......... I've put that on ice for a while.
In regards to Wladimir. I just don't think it's fair to say a guy should retire for getting knocked out when other fighters (Lewis, Tyson, Ali, and many more) get KO'ed and it's just a bump in the road of their careers. Especially if the guy is only 28 and still has his wits about him. It's unreasonable to say he should retire.
Regarding Vitali, I just don't get this one. Every time I watch the Lewis fight, I still see Vitali winning at the stoppage. Yet he gets no respect. All you hear is "Lewis was fat & old " bla bla bla. Just nonsence.
Then there's complaints about his opponents. All fighters try to take the road to the top with the least resistance, then do whatever it takes to stay on top. Thats just good management. Having said that, I also give a lot more credit to Sanders, Johnson, and Vitali's other opponents than other people. Fat and old my ass, These men could kill an average man with one punch.
Vitali has "Rocky Marciano Syndrome", only good because of terrible opponents. BUNCH OF BS! NOW YOU GOT ME GOING! YOU DON'T AGREE ONLY BECAUSE YOU JUST DON'T LIKE HIM! IT DOESN'T FIT YOUR GRAND "ILLUSION" OF LEWIS! C'mon ADMIT IT! LEWIS LOVER!
You've earned a pass ......... I've put that on ice for a while.
In regards to Wladimir. I just don't think it's fair to say a guy should retire for getting knocked out when other fighters (Lewis, Tyson, Ali, and many more) get KO'ed and it's just a bump in the road of their careers. Especially if the guy is only 28 and still has his wits about him. It's unreasonable to say he should retire.
Regarding Vitali, I just don't get this one. Every time I watch the Lewis fight, I still see Vitali winning at the stoppage. Yet he gets no respect. All you hear is "Lewis was fat & old " bla bla bla. Just nonsence.
Then there's complaints about his opponents. All fighters try to take the road to the top with the least resistance, then do whatever it takes to stay on top. Thats just good management. Having said that, I also give a lot more credit to Sanders, Johnson, and Vitali's other opponents than other people. Fat and old my ass, These men could kill an average man with one punch.
Vitali has "Rocky Marciano Syndrome", only good because of terrible opponents. BUNCH OF BS! NOW YOU GOT ME GOING! YOU DON'T AGREE ONLY BECAUSE YOU JUST DON'T LIKE HIM! IT DOESN'T FIT YOUR GRAND "ILLUSION" OF LEWIS! C'mon ADMIT IT! LEWIS LOVER!
you need to learn it doesn't matter what he was doing up untill he got stopped. This is boxing and all that matters is that he got stopped. 20 years from now when people look back in the record books its not going to say Well Vitali had won 4 of the 6 rounds. Its gonna say Lennox Lewis TKO 6.
Vitali had an old Lewis in fron of him and you know what?...At the end of the day still couldn't get the job done. All your crying about this fight only makes you sound like a petty little school girl.
you need to learn it doesn't matter what he was doing up untill he got stopped. This is boxing and all that matters is that he got stopped. 20 years from now when people look back in the record books its not going to say Well Vitali had won 4 of the 6 rounds. Its gonna say Lennox Lewis TKO 6.
Vitali had an old Lewis in fron of him and you know what?...At the end of the day still couldn't get the job done. All your crying about this fight only makes you sound like a petty little school girl.
I couldn't have said it better myself. Just like when people look back on Vitali's fight with Byrd, there not gonna see Vitali was leading,there gonna see that it was TKO in the tenth with the victory going to Byrd.
Again Klit fans give themselves and their boys a bad name.
LOLOLOL CITA and Jose should hook up. I think you two make a nice couple. Guys can't stand the truth about Byrd and Lewis. LOLOL
Resorting to childish namecalling, Torino, thats typical, you obviously are getting desperate in your argument.Did you read that article on ******** yet?
you need to learn it doesn't matter what he was doing up untill he got stopped. This is boxing and all that matters is that he got stopped. 20 years from now when people look back in the record books its not going to say Well Vitali had won 4 of the 6 rounds. Its gonna say Lennox Lewis TKO 6.
Vitali had an old Lewis in fron of him and you know what?...At the end of the day still couldn't get the job done. All your crying about this fight only makes you sound like a petty little school girl.
Maybe i saw a different fight. He couldnt get the job done? Vitali was putting a beating on Lewis, yes he lost the fight, that is not to debate. i am a Klit fan, not rabid like some, but i say no cut over Vitali's eye=Lennox Lewis retiring a beaten and beltless man.The man was getting the job done until the fight was stopped.
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