Originally posted by Miksterious
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Was Taylor Ring Mag p4p Number one?
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But Lacy was supposedly the best supermiddle in the world and favourite to beat Joe and that makes it more impressive. It was supposed to be competive, but wasnt anywhere near. Lacy is an average boxer in peoples opinions now, but befor Joe exposed him, noone had ever made Lacy look bad. Even if people try and make out that he was overrated. Lacy was overrated but there was noone good enough to beat Lacy, until Joe.
As for Gatti. Lots of people before PBF had made Gatti not look good. And if PBF was as good as people said he was. What happened to Gatti cant really have suprised anyone.
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Originally posted by JD1986 View PostMy point is that everyone makes mistakes, so let's not start threads over it or say they have "no boxing knowledge"
Many fights are difficult to predict and the outcome is unknown, but when you talk about who was ranked where, its fact, and he was wrong.
its very simple.
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Originally posted by hugh grant View PostSimply put, Lacy is not better than the people PBF has fought. But the way in which JOe handled Lacy was as impressive as anything PBF has ever done against his opponents. And i wouldnt put his destruction of Gatti on the same level. Again, if Joe were to beat Hopkins at light heavy and JT and kessler there wouldnt be anything left for Joe to do. Nothing more he could achieve. Those achievements would fare well against anything anyone else has achieved. But it is a big if he can beat those guys?
Add in Floyds 10th round (5kd, winning every round) fight against Deigo Corrales, the Undefeated Lightweight champion rated #5 p4p by the ring magazine and we dont really have a contest.
Corrales was a proven great and a HOF candidate.
Lacy was, and is not.
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Originally posted by hugh grant View PostBut Lacy was supposedly the best supermiddle in the world and favourite to beat Joe and that makes it more impressive. It was supposed to be competive, but wasnt anywhere near. Lacy is an average boxer in peoples opinions now, but befor Joe exposed him, noone had ever made Lacy look bad. Even if people try and make out that he was overrated. Lacy was overrated but there was noone good enough to beat Lacy, until Joe.
As for Gatti. Lots of people before PBF had made Gatti not look good. And if PBF was as good as people said he was. What happened to Gatti cant really have suprised anyone.
Again, i had calzaghe to knockout lacy
And people (on this forum) had mayweather gettting knocked out by gatti, i belive, i went for mayweather KO in 5.
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Originally posted by Easy-E View PostPicking someone to win a fight and claiming that one fighter was ranked at number 1 p4p are very different things.
Many fights are difficult to predict and the outcome is unknown, but when you talk about who was ranked where, its fact, and he was wrong.
its very simple.
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Originally posted by Technical_Skill View PostIt doesnt matter who is the favto win, it's about who destroyed who more, the destruction of gatti was more clinical, seriously, the combination work in that fight was unreal,
Again, i had calzaghe to knockout lacy
And people (on this forum) had mayweather gettting knocked out by gatti, i belive, i went for mayweather KO in 5.
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Originally posted by hugh grant View PostAll i'm saying is that although PBF has fought better opponents than Joe. Joes whipping of Lacy is imo as good as anything i have seen anyone do in a world title fight in terms of outboxing someone, and im not only comparing to what PBF has done. Im not denying that PBF has been impressive as well. But lots of people were impressed with Joes win in the world of boxing. SRL said it was some of the best stuff hes seen as well.
If you like Boxing clinics, its mayweather gatti for me though,
Mayweather nearly got arrested for attempted murder after that fight,
Apparently after the fight mayweather got in his car and was chased by police oj-simpson style for what he did to gatti,
Think he got off though on grounds of self defence, such is the law these days.
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Taylor was not even ranked after beating Hopkins twice. Then after a draw with Wright they put him at like 4 or 5. The Ring is a joke ever since they named Vitali the Heavyweight Champion (which is against their policy).
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