Bernard Hopkins: "There is no skill in MMA"

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  • 1bad65
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    #51
    To all the guys saying MMA guys are not skilled or can't take punch or are scared, take your mouth to an MMA gym and run it.

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    • Benny Leonard
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      #52
      Interview with John Hackleman, Chuck's trainer

      at the end he talks about boxing
      http://www.**********.com/pag/article10935.html



      PC: Which do you think is tougher, a boxer going to MMA or a mixed martial artist going into boxing?

      JH: Ah ****, that’s a good one. I think it would be harder for a boxing guy to go to MMA because of all the wrestling and stuff. It’s so much striking going on in MMA now a lot of guys can’t come over and just ****. The biggest thing with a boxer would be them thinking it’s a boxing match and within 2 seconds they would be on their back and can’t get back up You have to modify your stance, your punching and your strategy. If a MMA guy goes to a boxing coach for his standup, it’s not going to be affective at all. Boxing hands isn’t going to work in MMA. A boxer would have to modify it. If they already have the punch…like I think Tyson would knock everyone out if he went to MMA. He has that low stance and I bet he could pick up wrestling quick. A natural guy like Roy Jones would be really good in MMA.

      PC: I appreciate the interview John. Is there anything you want to say in closing?

      JH: I love boxing. Boxing is probably the main stay of our training and we just combined it with everything else. I think boxing guys picking up on MMA training methods is a great way to cross train and get well conditioned.


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      I could only imagine what a young Tyson or Foreman would do in MMA if they had trained since they were 14 or so, or even started when they were in their early 20's, took some time to learn other fighting disciplines, then fought in MMA.
      4oz gloves on Tyson and Foreman, could you imagine
      Last edited by Benny Leonard; 05-23-2007, 10:44 PM.

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      • 1bad65
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        #53
        Originally posted by EliteSoldier
        No, their rednecks. Not Caucasion, it's like how black people don't like N#!@#!S(It's true chris rock even did a racial skit about it saying black people hate N-word.) and consider them a different race all together. White people have the same feud with Rednecks, we don't like them. Thats their sport
        Everytime you comment on MMA you sound more ****** than before. Actually MMA is actually very popular with college/frat guys. If you go to a live show you will honestly see about 5 preppy types for every 1 redneck, and this is in Texas.

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        • Bomb1st
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          #54
          Originally posted by IncuFan
          I understand where he is coming from because there is more skill in boxing, but I would have to disagree about their not being any skill. Their is some especially on the ground, but in the stand up it's really no contest, boxers have the better skills. It's gonna be a arguement that people will discuss for years.
          This is well said!!!

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          • majestiC
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            #55
            Sorry, but UFC has no skill at all, its like WWE, made to look real, from the last I looked only UFC contracted fighters can fight in the UFC, so whats the difference, any joe can't fight anyone to prove his worth, thats the perception i have from UFC, maybe im wrong, but this drastically reduces its "skill pool" and reputation.

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            • 1bad65
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              #56
              Your as ****ing ****** as Gunstar! If it's so fake, go drop a challenge at an MMA gym. You may hate it, but it as real as boxing.

              Yes, you have to be under contract, but they do not pick the winners and losers. UFC is overseen by State Boxing/Combative Sports Commisions. In Texas there are State officials at ringside and backstage at every MMA(and boxing) event. Fixing or faking is against the law, I THINK it's actually a felony.
              Last edited by 1bad65; 05-23-2007, 11:12 PM.

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              • Addison
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                #57
                Originally posted by 1bad65
                To all the guys saying MMA guys are not skilled or can't take punch or are scared, take your mouth to an MMA gym and run it.
                I have, believe me. I've been in the ring at the pro level in KB, and I have been all over the community around Boxing, MMA, ect.

                Technically, I'm qualified to compete in MMA.


                Martial Artists, MMA, and other fighters marvel at Boxers ability to take and give punishment.

                Without that ability - you cannot be a Boxer.

                That's one of the primary differences.

                Fundamentally.

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                • 1bad65
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                  #58
                  Addison, I totally agree boxers are tough, and they are athletes in every sense of the word. But so are MMA guys. The ignorant attitude of some here is ****ing sad. I NEVER put down boxing, I just tried to say MMA was a legit sport. Saying good stuff about MMA is NOT bashing boxing. People need to learn this.

                  I do both also. I'm a blue belt in BJJ, and I admit alot better on the ground than stnding up. But I totally respect boxers big time. Hell, I know firsthand it sucks to get hit by one!

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                  • GunStar
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by 1bad65
                    Your as ****ing ****** as Gunstar! If it's so fake, go drop a challenge at an MMA gym. You may hate it, but it as real as boxing.

                    Yes, you have to be under contract, but they do not pick the winners and losers. UFC is overseen by State Boxing/Combative Sports Commisions. In Texas there are State officials at ringside and backstage at every MMA(and boxing) event. Fixing or faking is against the law, I THINK it's actually a felony.
                    Just to let you know I have proof that both MMA and UFC turned me down for fighting their champions in a boxing ring with boxing rules, they don't even have the balls to fight a non-pro boxer 30+ years old like myself in a boxing ring.

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                    • GunStar
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by majestiC
                      Sorry, but UFC has no skill at all, its like WWE, made to look real, from the last I looked only UFC contracted fighters can fight in the UFC, so whats the difference, any joe can't fight anyone to prove his worth, thats the perception i have from UFC, maybe im wrong, but this drastically reduces its "skill pool" and reputation.
                      Govner, here is some good karma!

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