Bernard Hopkins: "There is no skill in MMA"

[GunStar]

No, their rednecks. Not Caucasion, it's like how black people don't like N#!@#!S(It's true chris rock even did a racial skit about it saying black people hate N-word.) and consider them a different race all together. White people have the same feud with Rednecks, we don't like them. Thats their sport

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[1bad65]

Gun, they are DIFFERENT sports! Is this really that hard for you to understand?

You don't see Roger Clements challenging Randy Moss to come up to the plate and bat do you?

[Addison]

Addison, I totally agree boxers are tough, and they are athletes in every sense of the word. But so are MMA guys. The ignorant attitude of some here is ****ing sad. I NEVER put down boxing, I just tried to say MMA was a legit sport. Saying good stuff about MMA is NOT bashing boxing. People need to learn this.

I do both also. I'm a blue belt in BJJ, and I admit alot better on the ground than stnding up. But I totally respect boxers big time. Hell, I know firsthand it sucks to get hit by one!

I see where you're coming from. The sweeping generalizations don't apply. I would be a little more neutral or even protective of other fighting arts; unless I had come to the ultimate conclusion that Boxers have a greater capacity for pain and endurance than other forms - and that is what ultimately wins fights. The majority of fights at least..

Although again - I appreciate what you're saying about guys who can do everything. There's not much you can do to stop that no matter how tough or durable someone is..


It's just the wild talk that MMA guys would "destroy" Boxers that gets to me..


Your position is one I do respect. You feel the same way I do - you don't want to hear overblown hype that MMA would stand no chance on the other side of the equation. I agree.


I posted this just last night as a friendly reminder to friends in the lounge that nothing is inconcievable or a foregone conclusion in combat.

As much of a Boxing advocate as I am, I must concede there are plenty of Boxers who could/would be susceptible to unorthdox attacks and angles - even the taboo "high kick":

[Solntse]

Hopkins would beat most MMA fighters in a streetfight, that's for sure...

[jai mari078]

Bernard said this on Jim Rome's radio show and Rome played it again on his television show.


Bernard also said that you can go to any bar and get a MMA fighter.

Rome basically said on his show that a boxer would win in boxing rules and MMA fighter would win in MMA rules.

Also, MMA is not a Fad, it is here to stay.

Chuck is on right now:

B-Hopp also said that if he got into a fight with an MMAer under MMA rules he would get his ass kicked.

[Kakutogi-Gumi]

Hopkins is sorta right.

If he's talking hand striking, he's right. Because there's study of several other forms of hand striking as well as striking in general, you're not going to get a crisp and controled form of hand striking.

But if he's talking skill in general, he doesn't know what he's talking about.

[TheEvilSaint]

ok bernard, lets see what happens when you have to fight and cant use ur hands.

yeah, muay thai doesnt require any skill. nor does jujitsu, grappling, wrestling, kickboxing, submissions, or take-down defense require skill, either.

a testament as to how popular MMA (not just UFC) is right now: even boxers cant help but talk about it.

[danny stash]

I am convinced this guy has a 3rd grade education at best.

[Saint 3:16]

How much does Liddell get per fight?

around 200 K

Damn, and I thought boxing was corrupt.

Chuck Liddell:

UFC 57 defeated Randy Couture - $250,000
UFC 62 defeated Babalu - $250,000
UFC 66 defeated Tito Ortiz - $250,000

Remember a couple of things:

1. That is just the disclosed salary figure. That does not include any bonuses(KO of the Night, Fight of the night, etc.) NOR PPV cuts top MMA have in their contracts. Tito and Chuck both made between 2-3 million for UFC 66, mainly due to PPV % cuts. Also, that does not include any advertisement deals.

However, only top draws get pvv cuts, so everyone else is still making peanuts compared to even b-level boxers. So brings up with next point.

2. MMA is barely a 15 year old sport, and for half of that time, it wasn't as organized or even sanctioned as it is now.

Oh yeah, to say MMA fighters have no skill just shows you're in denial.

[-Antonio-]

There is plenty of skill involved in MMA. Whether or not boxing takes more skill remains to be seen. Nobody really knows unless they do both. To the untrained eye it looks like a streetfight, but its really not. These guys literally know hundreds of ways to take a guy out in seconds. There are so many elements involved.