De La Hoya: Clue me in.....

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  • yrrej
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    De La Hoya: Clue me in.....

    He has fought lots of big fights for a lot of years. He's had the best trainers available and, to all appearances, seems to be in great shape when he steps in the ring. So why can't he put 12 hard rounds together. In this last fight, basically all he had to do was jab and provoke some exchanges over the last 4 - 5 rounds, and he would have walked away with either the decision or maybe even gotten lucky and KO'd Mayweather. He's never been out from a punch to the head, and he still looks fresh after the fight, even though he isn't throwing at the end of the fight. In fact, he's only been KO'd once to the body by a much bigger, stronger guy. Any trainer will tell his fighter that if he can't hit the other guy with the jab, he can't hit him with anything. He won't be able to feint his way in moving his whole body around, if he can't even touch him with his hand. So what is wrong with this guy? He simply can't get into real good condition where he can fight hard for 12 rounds? Who would want to watch more of the same given his inability to come up to speed when he was younger, and he's already 34? Somebody provide an answer please....
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    He's one of the most frustrating fighters of all time. He has or I should say had a lot of ability but always gave fights away. He threw away his best weapons as a fighter.

    Instead of training hard he was recording some ****** Album. Instead of bulking up and training hard for his Middleweight debut he hardly trained and eat too many tacos by the looks of it. Oscar is done and not a PPV fighter anymore. This probably doesn't help but I don't feel like writing a essay of why Oscar isn't what he should be as a fighter at the moment.

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    • Feint
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      #3
      Originally posted by yrrej
      He has fought lots of big fights for a lot of years. He's had the best trainers available and, to all appearances, seems to be in great shape when he steps in the ring. So why can't he put 12 hard rounds together. In this last fight, basically all he had to do was jab and provoke some exchanges over the last 4 - 5 rounds, and he would have walked away with either the decision or maybe even gotten lucky and KO'd Mayweather. He's never been out from a punch to the head, and he still looks fresh after the fight, even though he isn't throwing at the end of the fight. In fact, he's only been KO'd once to the body by a much bigger, stronger guy. Any trainer will tell his fighter that if he can't hit the other guy with the jab, he can't hit him with anything. He won't be able to feint his way in moving his whole body around, if he can't even touch him with his hand. So what is wrong with this guy? He simply can't get into real good condition where he can fight hard for 12 rounds? Who would want to watch more of the same given his inability to come up to speed when he was younger, and he's already 34? Somebody provide an answer please....
      Here is your answer: he lost to a better boxer.

      It pains me to say that because I have always been a De La Hoya fan. He is smart, has underrated power, and though he has lost a step, is pretty quick. But the fact is Mayweather is one of the best defensive fighters to come around since Ray Leanard. He has perfected the “stick and move” to a point where it looks effortless in the ring, so much so that sometimes people who don’t know boxing mistakenly assume it is apathy. But the fact is when you perfect something it only looks like indifference because the action has become second nature. That’s what the great ones do. Because of this the best De La Hoya could do is put on a show of hitting Mayweather’s gloves while they were in a defensive position which despite the show it put on for the “fans” at ringside, those of us who know boxing did next to nothing.

      Again, De La Hoya is incredibly talented and despite the impression people have of him, he has a lot of heart. Because of this I believe he still has a few great fights in him. But as much as I hate admitting this as one of his biggest fans, he is simply not in the class of Mayweather.

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      • Truth
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        #4
        Originally posted by brently1979
        Oscar is done and not a PPV fighter anymore.
        I disagree there. If Oscar faught Joe Smith tommorow he'd probably still generate anywhere from 500,000-800,000 PPV buys. Its name power.

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        • Truth
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          yrrej, Oscar also got some questionable decisions in his career. Many believe he beat Felix Trinidad and Shane Mosley(II).

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          • BROOKLYN CESAR
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            He looks like he trains hard!!! I dont Like DLH at all!!! I hate him even!!! But even i have to admit that he fights the big fights and always takes the risky fights!!! He has done enough in boxing to be in the HOF!!! He should give it away!!!

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            • bengidaro
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              #7
              His head is elsewhere. He is in it for the money (like he should be) but with everything surrounding the fight it becomes hard to focus and... Mayweather is better and fought his fight not De La Hoya's.

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              • Slotff
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                Not all his skill is gone, he gave the pound for pound king a run for his money, but Oscar dosn't have anything to prove. He isn't as skilled anymore obviously, but he is still good. He has nothing to prove to anyone. He has fought the best, and (for the most part) beat the best. Now he is probably just in it for the money, but so what? His record speaks for itself.

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                • Hydro
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by TRUTH
                  yrrej, Oscar also got some questionable decisions in his career. Many believe he beat Felix Trinidad and Shane Mosley(II).
                  He won those fights on my card, but also lost to Quartey (114-113) and Sturm (116-112) on my cards, and drew with Whitaker (113-113)

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                  • kING T
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                    #10
                    Feint, you are 100% on the money!

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