Floyd is not better than Sugar ray leonard.

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  • dino
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    #61
    Originally posted by Sin City
    For what he did as a lightweight yes... as a welter or higher he hasn't done much other then the split decision against DLH. Even though I don't like the guy it would be a shame for him to retire because he has the potential to be ranked real high on the all time greatest list.. If only he would quit bull****ing and fight everyone out there.. DLH is a step but its not enough since before that he hadn't had a win that big for like two or some years.
    leonard didnt do anything as a middleweight except run around and get a decision vs hagler

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      #62
      Originally posted by Cletus Funk
      Nice use of the word bollocks. We'll make a Limey out of you yet. Nice swerve on a couple of points too.

      You've made it clear on here in the past that you have an unhealthy distaste for SRL and I'm not going to be the medium for you to pedantically vent your spleen about him for much longer, so get it in while you can.

      Talk about 15 pounds all you like. Oscar was a very good fighter and still had a little left, I'll admit. It was a fairly brave move by Floyd to fight him but let's not confuse it with the real thing, we ARE NOT talking a prime DLH by any ****ing stretch and Floyd did not look good in the fight to many observers, me included. And let's not forget that old favourite of your's either - Floyd only won because DLH gassed out in the last 3rd of the fight.

      SRL rematched Hearns, didn't he? He fought Duran a 3rd time, didn't he? Who the **** are you to demand when and where the fights happen or to hold that against him? He certainly didn't do himself any real favours by delaying it. You must have had a hissy-fit in between the MAB / Morales fights when they were fighting other people.

      Thanks, but I knew his eye wasn't injured in the 1st Hearns fight. Hence my point about the easy defence.

      And yes, I know all about the build up to Duran 2 and the many, many, many urban legends surrounding it.

      I'll give you that "bullcrap" all day long buddy, I couldn't care less if you want to hear it or not. Nobody forced these guys to make concessions. They agreed to them for one reason and one reason only - greed, so **** 'em, I say.

      The fact is there's not a thing that Floyd's done that bares comparison to Leonard's career apart from the accumulation of belts. Ray fought at a whole different level, full stop.
      The bold is the exact **** most of you PBF haters are doing. Who the **** are yall to demand that he fight a bum ass Margarito, a half way decent Cotto (who has fought no one), and Mosley who now all of a sudden want to fight PBF since his stature in boxing has gone down? Your being a hypocrite with that statement. Even if he fought and beat all 3 of those people yall would find something to complain about how he won those fights.

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        #63
        Originally posted by tredh
        The bold is the exact **** most of you PBF haters are doing. Who the **** are yall to demand that he fight a bum ass Margarito, a half way decent Cotto (who has fought no one), and Mosley who now all of a sudden want to fight PBF since his stature in boxing has gone down? Your being a hypocrite with that statement. Even if he fought and beat all 3 of those people yall would find something to complain about how he won those fights.
        'haters' isn't an actual word you know.

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          #64
          Cotto Floyd would be a very good fight. Probably Margarito as well but I'd rather see him fight Cotto. Not these old hat guys like Mosely etc...

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            #65
            But Mosely would be good. Just rather Cotto.

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            • tredh
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              #66
              Originally posted by me2007
              FLoyd 'i beat up women' mayweather isn`t anywhere near the level of SRL. That is crazy talk. Mayweather is a nobody with a boring style. He's fought nobodies and old men his entire career.
              i want everyone to remember that Mayweathers record is 37 bores and 1 loss.
              De la Hoya gets credit and love for beating a old Whitaker and too much love for beating a old Chavez but yet I never hear yall say that same **** about him. Stop being biased nobody's fight opponents are all perfect and alot boxers competition level is based when they came around and who was around when they were in they're primes. You can't blame a fighter for the competition around him. PBF doesn't have a Hagler, Hearns, or a Duran for him to fight. Because no matter how much respect yall give Hatton, Margarito, Cotto, Mosley and others they not on those boxers level and that is not PBF fault.

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                #67
                Originally posted by tredh
                De la Hoya gets credit and love for beating a old Whitaker and too much love for beating a old Chavez but yet I never hear yall say that same **** about him. Stop being biased nobody's fight opponents are all perfect and alot boxers competition level is based when they came around and who was around when they were in they're primes. You can't blame a fighter for the competition around him. PBF doesn't have a Hagler, Hearns, or a Duran for him to fight. Because no matter how much respect yall give Hatton, Margarito, Cotto, Mosley and others they not on those boxers level and that is not PBF fault.
                If I am included in 'ya'll' I just want to let you know that I'm not one to really sing the praises of Oscar.

                Mayweather hasn't fought any serious competition at welterweight besides De La Hoya who has lost really 4 of his last 5 fights. It's not proven that he can even hold his own against the best in the welterweight divison.
                Last edited by The Troll; 05-11-2007, 08:02 AM.

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                  #68
                  Not really, you're missing the point. SRL fought the guys mentioned, just not immediately after the previous fights as my little friend wanted.

                  In terms of ATG status, Floyd's resume doesn't cut it. It's merely good, not great.



                  Originally posted by tredh
                  The bold is the exact **** most of you PBF haters are doing. Who the **** are yall to demand that he fight a bum ass Margarito, a half way decent Cotto (who has fought no one), and Mosley who now all of a sudden want to fight PBF since his stature in boxing has gone down? Your being a hypocrite with that statement. Even if he fought and beat all 3 of those people yall would find something to complain about how he won those fights.

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                  • tredh
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by The Fan Man
                    If I am included in 'ya'll' I just want to let you know that I'm not one to really sing the praises of Oscar.

                    Mayweather hasn't fought any serious competition outside at welterweight besides De La Hoya who has lost really 4 of his last 5 fights. It's not proven that he can even hold his own against the best in the welterweight divison.
                    Who serious competition for him at welterweight?

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by tredh
                      Who serious competition for him at welterweight?
                      Who you mentioned. Cotto, Margarito, Mosely, 3 examples. Nothing to scoff at. Those are real challenges. Real challengers if your saying Floyd is #1 at 147 which It's only debatable that you can.

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