Floyd is not better than Sugar ray leonard.

[tredh]

You win first and look good and exciting second. **** how certain fans want you to fight that **** could get your ass whooped and then they not going to give a **** about you. Just like Herman Edwards said "You play to win the game" PBF fights the style of fight that will get him the WIN first all that crowd pleasing or non pleasing **** can come later. I'll take 38-0 and have a few fans hate me over having some losses because I wanted to fight like some fans want to see me fight.

[ml2niceguy]

floyds still young...we'll see how he finishes his career...dont' think he's gonna retire...from here on out he'll be only fighting blockbuster fights...hopefully

[wiso2008]

yeah i think Sugar ray robinson, Hagler, Hearns where better fighters than FLOY

[Left2body]

I would take prime Duran over any other fighter from 135-140.

[shocky]

Big dumb **** head

floyd is top 3 all time. He has done what no other fighter before him has done.. 5 for 5 undefeated..beating 4 Hofers to win those belts. you may not recognize his greatness but he has surpassed ray leonard, hearns, hagler and duran in terms of accomplishments.

you got to be the biggest mayweather nut bag hugger of all time to rate him like you do. are you a crackhead or just a moron?

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

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if floyd fought the best then he would be the best but he held out for a big payday with oscar then retired....Floyd doesnt care for his legacy or the fans so F him.

Domain, Do you think Floyd ducked tougher guys to fight Oscar at 154? Please tell me who those guys are.

[amagnin]

I got to give the nod to SRL. While I truly am conflicted as to who would win a fight between them I am speculating for Mayweather and analyzing for SRL. Leonard fought some of the other best fighters in the modern era and he won and won emphatically. Lets be real say what you want about Hagler, Hearns, Duran etc. I don't think there is any argument that they were better fighters than Zab Judah, 34 yr. old DLH, Jose Luis Castillo or Diego Corrales (RIP). Floyd has all the skills to be mentioned in the same vain as these guys he simply hasn't proven it.

[Cletus Funk]

Come on, man. You can't seriously be using a materialistic nature to bash a fighter when you're holding him up against Floyd, surely?

I think you're overstating the mediocrity of the Lalonde fight. You're acting like Lalonde had never made the SMW limit in his life. He wasn't even a big LHW and usually came in well under the limit. He wasn't the total bum that you'd have people believe either. He beat a very good fighter for the title and racked up a couple of defences.

Interesting spin on the relative weight classes.

I'll give you DLH over Lalonde obviously, although it should be qualified by the fact that SRL was moving up in weight again, and off the back of another stretch of inactivity, with the inactivity applying in reverse to the PBF v DLH fight.

4th weight class: Sorry, but you again seem to have conveniently ignored the fact that Ray himself was what? That's right - an old man from a lower weight class. And just to be clear, you were talking about Roberto Duran and Thomas Hearns, right? Just wanted to clear that up because your tone had me scratching around in my head for a Sharmba Mitchell or a Zab Judah equivalent.

1st & 3rd classes: Glad to see you're not totally delusional.

Can't really argue about the 2nd weight class as Ray didn't hang around there for long. Kalule was a good fighter though and it's only time spent at the weight which edges it for Floyd, especially when you throw in that most people have him racking up his 1st loss there.

Ok, so you are celebrating the business man who brings money to the table and not the warrior. I just wanted to know that.



facts:

5th weigth class: PBF takes it.Oscar>>> Lalonde.
4th weight class: PBF takes it. SRL fights old men from lower weight classes. PBF fights the champ
3rd weight class: SRL takes it (obviously)
2nd weight class: PBF takes it (Castillo twice>> Kalule)
1st weight class: SRL fights the better opposition, by far, but he collects a loss in the process and see remarks above on Duran and Heanrs rematches. PBF cleans out a weaker division.

full stop

[wmute]

Come on, man. You can't seriously be using a materialistic nature to bash a fighter when you're holding him up against Floyd, surely?

Actually I do, I already wrote: you want to say srl is a p4p better fighter than pbf? fine, an opinion I can live with. but dont give me Leonard as an example of "the selfless warrior that Mayweather is not". For all of the reasons I mentioned not Leonard.

I think you're overstating the mediocrity of the Lalonde fight. You're acting like Lalonde had never made the SMW limit in his life. He wasn't even a big LHW and usually came in well under the limit. He wasn't the total bum that you'd have people believe either. He beat a very good fighter for the title and racked up a couple of defences.

which would be the very good fighter???? I dont remember any good win in Lalonde's record. I consider it one of the WORST examples of alphabet bull**** ever. TWO titles at stake (168, freshly created i think, and 175), with a dehydrated Lalonde and a welterweight fighting)

IInteresting spin on the relative weight classes.

I'll give you DLH over Lalonde obviously, although it should be qualified by the fact that SRL was moving up in weight again, and off the back of another stretch of inactivity, with the inactivity applying in reverse to the PBF v DLH fight.


4th weight class: Sorry, but you again seem to have conveniently ignored the fact that Ray himself was what? That's right - an old man from a lower weight class. And just to be clear, you were talking about Roberto Duran and Thomas Hearns, right? Just wanted to clear that up because your tone had me scratching around in my head for a Sharmba Mitchell or a Zab Judah equivalent.

1st & 3rd classes: Glad to see you're not totally delusional.

Can't really argue about the 2nd weight class as Ray didn't hang around there for long. Kalule was a good fighter though and it's only time spent at the weight which edges it for Floyd, especially when you throw in that most people have him racking up his 1st loss there.

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5th weight class: SRL was moving up in weight? so was floyd, and his opponent was allowed to fight at the true weight not one weight class and some below.

4th weight class: Duran and Hearns are beautiful names, but old men.

Duran was 38 and a former lightweight, what was a supermiddleweight title doing there?

Hearns was a middleweight by then and... you know it, i know it, even SRL admitted it. Hearns won that fight fair and square.

Leonard was old? sure, but what's your point? That since he is old he gets credit for those fights? Then Tommy Hearns is great, because he just beat some bum, but he did it at almost 50.

what's better? beating a young zab judah in his 2nd weight class or a 38 years old duran in his 7th weight class (SEVENTH)? I very honestly think that beating Judah was a better achievement (yes, even if Duran was coming off the Barkley fight)

3rd weight class not much to say here...

2nd weight class. that was an easy pick

1st weight class. 130 and 147. Leonard beat Benitez, Hearns and Duran. While he gets all possible credit for his victories in the ring, all I wrote before about rematches with duran and hearns still stays.
Mayweather did his thing at 130, he dominated every opponent he faced. There were no Durans or Hearns around, but he did not just win every fight, he dominated every single opponent (except for the one-handed part of the famoso fight). Their achievements are pretty similar.


Mind, with all of this I dont want to convince you, that PBF is the best fighter. opinions are like bollocks. everyone got his.
My point is simply that they are very much in the same boat, and if one wants to play the ****** game "PBF sucks compared to...", there are other fighters than SRL, which should be used for this.

The fighters who fought more than 100 fights... the welterweight who often stood up close to the lightheavyweight champion. The fighters who fought for more belts at the same time. The fighters that had life and death battles, and then had the rematches (La Motta-Robinson was fought 5 or 6 times, Saddler and Pepp 4 times and so on...). Neither Leonard nor Mayweather ever did that.