Bulls#@$ fight, floyd couldnt match his hype

[MaYaN_SuN]

Oscar was not gassed out, what fight were you watching?? Oscar missed most of his shots, it was Floyd who landed all the significant shots, not Oscar.

seriously, someone should check oscar's gloves for internal damage

[GunStar]

are you ****ing kidding me? Oscar not gassed? LOL

Oscar was in the best shape I've seen in him in a long time and I didn't see him gassing out, if you think he was gassed out then you def have not seen the fight.

[iwagh911]

Here we go...

First off pbftxrs316, if you are going to make statements such as this one:

emanuel steward is a great trainer, don't get me wrong, but the man can't call a fight to save his life.

Then please supply everyone with any kind of source or link because without it, your words mean absolutely nothing. This goes for everyone on this board, on each side of the fight.

-The fight had huge hype, and made a huge amount of money. Yes, most of you are correct that the hype in general did not live up to the actual fight, but it did live up to the money it raised - and in today's world that is all that matters. So if you upset about this deal with it already it's over.

-Next, upon reflection and watching the fight a 2nd time (since there is so much controversy) - yes it was a close call. Close enough that maybe there will be a rematch. However, DLH fans needs to calm down,be the BIGGER MAN, and not act like little girls because the fight did not go there way.

- DLH looked good, and did exceptional against such fast punches, he blocked a tremendous amount! However, Floyd is floyd and many of his quick jabs landed (although didn't do much). DLH might have had a good plan to get Floyd on the ropes but when he came down to it, his flurries seemed so unorganized and were wide that he barely landed either.

-It would be better if ODH fans could realize Floyd had a smart tactic and simply boxed tradionally. Who cares if he said he would brawl like he "said he did." Plus, who believes half the things that are said during premotions anyways? Overall he had a smarter plan, and stuck to it - no matter how annoying it might have seemed to a ODH fan, PBF boxed smart.

-It would be better if PBF fans could realize that, Floyd isn't so "uber". He is a great fighter but remember he only got a controversial win over someone he was expected to win against, and not only that, he never at one point dominated...anything (much like every fan swore he would). Also, how can he be considered the greatest, or an alltime great compared to: Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Dempsey, Joe Louis, SRL, SRR? A boxer can only be considered great when he has proven to fight all of the good opposition in his time. And trust me, there are plenty more fighters for Floyd to fight...it's not like ODH was the end of the road.


I just want all these posters to consider some of this stuff..

My 2cents

Iwagh

[BmoreBrawler]

the announcers mentioned that he gassed towards the later rounds ALL NIGHT. Did you watch without sound or something?

[GunStar]

the announcers mentioned that he gassed towards the later rounds ALL NIGHT. Did you watch without sound or something?

From what I remember Steward said that Floyd's plan is to get to Oscar in the last 4 rounds when he gasses out, but Oscar never gassed out.

BTW I don't care what announcers say, he did not looked gassed out to me.

[BmoreBrawler]

suit yourself, but i think most ppl would disagree with you.

[K-Nan]

Lol. Floyd ran? What!?!?!

He ran late against Baldomir. He didn't run against Oscar.

And for those who thought that the fight was only pressed by Oscar my question is: What the **** did you expect?

Floyd to stand in there all night? I was actually surprised at how he began to settle into the pocket as the rounds went on.

[MBL]

I thought Oscar was gassed in round 10 and 11 but came back to life in the 12th
he wasnt completely ****ed he just started making mistakes like letting Floyd slip out of the corner to easy a couple times (like Baldomir easy)
and he stood there and took a few nice crisp punches which is something that only happened in the last 3 rounds imo
I am a DLH fan but I know Oscar lost a close fight, a rematch would be good because Oscar is fight fit now

[pbftxrs316]

i think your aware that im upset oscar lost, but i dont think you understand.

somthin about watchin a fighter run, than try to score but fail to score, BUT than get credit for not scoring. yeah, thats why im personally displeased with the outcome.

all that talkin, all that hype...and than we get a runner from round 1? not only that, but oscar was still fast enough to catch that human chicken. oscar saved this fight, and saved his career.

and please, max kellerman is a self deluted weasel. i mean emanuel steward was quick to discredit oscars performance against mayorga because it was a blatant mismatch. but even he was able to see how oscar was doin for this fight....than you got kellermans narrow weasel ass, up in his chair laughin like oscar got shut out. c'mon, if oscar got shut out, why was floyd the only frustrated looking fighter. why couldnt floyd match his own hype. lol i know you see the words "why," but dont get confused and think i was asking a question. those were statements.

why did max kellerman call the fight a shutout(which he didn't say, he said he saw a dominating performance by mayweather, you're already misinterpreting words), because he probably watched the fight in depth like i did and may experts and agreed that floyd won the fight decisively, because he did. since when is moving well around the smaller ring that de la hoya got for that reason running? to actual boxing fans with an obese knowledge of the art, it's far from that claim. floyd boxed smart, he didn't appear hurt by any of oscar's punches, he did appear to hurt oscar, he landed at a higher percentage than oscar even in the rounds he lost on ledeman's card, and he won a wrong decison imo. it should have been unanimous in floyd's favor like i've been claiming a lot since this fight ended. oscar looked more aggressive, that i'll never argue, but floyd, like i've claimed in many of my previous posts, like i'm claiming now, and like i'll claim again i'm sure, picks his punches at the right time for the most part, and makes sure they are in clear view and can not be disputed. the only mishap of this fight was tommy kassmaerrick or whatever his last name is. he scored the fight wrong imo and should have had floyd winning, but nonetheless, floyd shutup many naysayers and their claim that oscar would be too big for floyd, which he wasn't. they claimed oscar would be too strong for floyd, which he wasn't. they claimed that floyd moved up too fast, which he obviously didn't seeing how he is the new 154 lb wbc champion. he beat a tough fighter in oscar de la hoya who trained very well for the fight, and claimed that he would humble mayweather and he also claimed that he was in the best shape he's ever been in. he sparred with mosley, ivan calderon i believe, panchito, and mike to get prepared for floyd's speed and movement and for the most part he fought his ass off, but floyd was too much for him. he was still faster, had better defense overall, landed the faster, cleaner, clearer, and more effective shots, and he was just the better fighter that night, and you don't have to agree but the fights over. the right man won, many people who were actually at the fight agree, except the fans who were chanting bull****, but hell, many of them were for oscar anyway to begin with, and cheering for a guy is fine and dandy but chanting bull**** when you didn't even know that oscar was the champion and floyd was the challenger shows me that the chants were all they were, chants, and that's it. they were mad because oscar lost. they cheered for any type of pucnes oscar threw whether they landed or not, and that shows me that they were just a bunch of casual oscar fans, not boxing experts in the audience that night. george lopez is a funny dude, and he got out of his chair so many times when oscar flurried or threw a punch, and in the end, he saw his pal lose to the best fighter in the sport of boxing, and he bet on oscar with his heart. how does feel to have your heart pounded on by the pound for pound head hacho huh nacho? doesn't feel too good does it? i bet not, but oh well, oscar fought tough, floyd fought brilliant as usual, and the right man won. another thing with emanuel steward. at the end of the 11th round, a round that floyd dominated, even in jim lampley's eyes, and by the compubox punchstats and anybody with eyes, manny asked a question that just made me look at the television with disgust for him. he asked, "i wonder how the judges will score this round?" noting how oscar attempted a flurry at the near end of the round, landing maybe 2 or 3 punches. i actually answered out loud, "they will score the round for the guy who landed more shots oookayyy, and who threw more shots in the round, that guy's name is floyd mayweather, understand?" manny startled me with this question and made me go back to earlier rounds and listen to what he was saying in the earlier rounds. emanuel steward is on of the greatest trainers in boxing history, larry merchant is one of the greatest boxing commentators ever, but larry merchant holds emanuel steward on a string like a puppet. manny goes with larry's opinions over his own alot of times. he bases his assumptions off of larry's assumptions. he's not secure in his analysis, because he's never trained a fighter to fight against floyd mayweather, so he really can't base his assumptions off of the things he bases them off of. it's no secret that larry merchant hates floyd mayweather at this point and time. throughout the fight he rarely spoke when floyd was in control, and when he did speak, he was brief or he opted to speak abour oscar de la hoya's defense. larry merchant makes me sick. he needs to stop calling mayweather's fights because he doesn't stay objective enough like a lampley or roy jones or lewis. he feeds off of his emotions and tends to let his emotions overtake his objective analysis in many fights. he's, imo, a piece of ****.

[pbftxrs316]

I thought Oscar was gassed in round 10 and 11 but came back to life in the 12th
he wasnt completely ****ed he just started making mistakes like letting Floyd slip out of the corner to easy a couple times (like Baldomir easy)
and he stood there and took a few nice crisp punches which is something that only happened in the last 3 rounds imo
I am a DLH fan but I know Oscar lost a close fight, a rematch would be good because Oscar is fight fit now

then you must have missed round 5 then, because he took a nice right hook, a nice left hook, follwed by a couple more nice right hooks.