Mayweather-De La Hoya: Great Fight, Wrong Decision

[The Troll]

Are you trying to imply that Mayweather was as dominant against De La Hoya as Calzaghe against Lacy then?

[Mattyp151]

People say I am random. Where do you get this. When did I ever say that I thought Lacy would beat Calzaghe, I could see he would have problems with Calzaghe because of weaknesses I saw of his in prior fights against guys like Rubin Williams.

Lacy was able to do against Calzaghe what he did against most ofhis other opponents prior to fighting Calzaghe, he would have been effective and won the fight.

On that night, Lacy wasn't friggin touching Calzaghe, even on Lacy's best night. Point is, Lacy wasn't able to do what he did to 21 prior victims, nor was Oscar able to do what he did to 38 other fighters.

[Mattyp151]

Are you trying to imply that Mayweather was as dominant against De La Hoya as Calzaghe against Lacy then?

In terms of not getting hit, yes. Offensively, no chance.

[riza]

no it doesn't make it look like floyd was more active. it makes it look like he threw more clearly landed punches on oscar. thrwoing a jab is not a power punch, so it can't cause a fighter to look that active unless they throw in bunches. floyd did catch oscar with a lot of jabs, even if he threw them with hardly any power. he still landed. he didn't land many of them, but he did land a lot of them, and they were in clear view of the judges. i've watched the fight in slow motion about 5 times now, floyd landed a lot of jabs.

constantly throwing the jab made him look busier thruout the round, power or no power MANY jabs fell short.

[The Troll]

Thanks for proving my point. Oscar landed nothing big against Floyd, thus the whole premise of "the heavier hitter should get the benefit" is negated, and frankly, utterly ****** from the jump.

The heavier hitter does get the benefit when he lands punches in for a good part of the fight or better part of the fight is dictating the action. Lacy was totally in ineffectual in EVERY SINGLE area against Calzaghe. Again are you trying to imply that Mayweather was as dominant against De La Hoya as Calzaghe against Lacy.

Calzaghe totally dominated Lacy because he kept him at a range where he couldn't do anything and pounded him. Which goes back to my original point that drawing any kind of comparison here is entirely ascinine.

Or are you trying to say Mayweather and Calzaghe have equatable styles? Your all over the place.

[The Troll]

In terms of not getting hit, yes. Offensively, no chance.

ok..........

lol

[Super_Lightweight]

Floyd found out Oscar doesn't like when you throw rights over his jab, and doesn't like to deal with speed. Too bad it took him 7 rounds to see this, or the fight wouldn't be as discussed.

That did not happen much. When Oscar did throw the jab, he normally had Floyd backing up and was able to pester Floyd. Oscar abandoned it simply because he did not the faith in his jab, when in reality is would have helped him.

[The Troll]

You are saying then that De La Hoya was equally ineffectually offensively against Mayweather as Lacy was to Calzaghe then. Thankyou for answering one of my questions.

[The Troll]

I have to say I disagree with that assesment.

[Mattyp151]

The heavier hitter does get the benefit when he lands punches in for a good part of the fight or better part of the fight is dictating the action. Lacy was totally in ineffectual in EVERY SINGLE area against Calzaghe. Again are you trying to imply that Mayweather was as dominant against De La Hoya as Calzaghe against Lacy.

Calzaghe totally dominated Lacy because he kept him at a range where he couldn't do anything and pounded him. Which goes back to my original point that drawing any kind of comparison here is entirely ascinine.

Or are you trying to say Mayweather and Calzaghe have equatable styles? Your all over the place.

What I'm saying and have been saying is that you can have all the power in the world, if you don't land, you don't win. Oscar's best asset going in was power, which he didn't ever get to use. His jab, an extremely weak punch in comparison to his normally fantastic left hook, was his best punch, and by fights end, that became ineffective to the point he abandoned using it.

So, his 1 good shot he'd get in a round on Floyd over the last 5 doesn't equate to the 5-6-7 that Floyd landed on Oscar. The first 6 or 7 rounds were even, but once Floyd figured him out, it was game over.