Mayweather-De La Hoya: Great Fight, Wrong Decision

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  • The Troll
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    #101
    Originally posted by Mattyp151
    What I'm saying and have been saying is that you can have all the power in the world, if you don't land, you don't win. Oscar's best asset going in was power, which he didn't ever get to use. His jab, an extremely weak punch in comparison to his normally fantastic left hook, was his best punch, and by fights end, that became ineffective to the point he abandoned using it.

    So, his 1 good shot he'd get in a round on Floyd over the last 5 doesn't equate to the 5-6-7 that Floyd landed on Oscar. The first 6 or 7 rounds were even, but once Floyd figured him out, it was game over.
    I'm starting to think that you know your talking nonsense. And doing so to entice me to make points that you know are reasonable and agree with. Just do it yourself will you.
    Last edited by The Troll; 05-07-2007, 10:30 AM.

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    • El Jesus
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      #102
      Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
      That did not happen much. When Oscar did throw the jab, he normally had Floyd backing up and was able to pester Floyd. Oscar abandoned it simply because he did not the faith in his jab, when in reality is would have helped him.
      Orrrrrrrrr, maybe the constant right hands over the top of that jab began to make him realize that he cant hold it out there anymore and as he began to fade in the later rounds, the jab lost the snap it had from before. Oscar doesnt just stop using his jab for the sake of not using it, he was gettin stuck with overhand rights and he knows it. Oscar isnt ******, hes ring intelligent and knows when something isnt effective anymore. To suggest otherwise is discrediting oscars own boxing IQ which is obviously above average.

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      • El Jesus
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        #103
        Originally posted by The Fan Man
        I'm starting to think that you know your talking nonsense. And doing so to entice me to make points that you know are reasonable and agree with. Just do it yourself will you.
        You cant beat what you cant touch, period. If Oscar landed these huge shots you all say he did, floyd would be laid out on that canvas as we speak.

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        • Super_Lightweight
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          #104
          Well, you are just wrong. Floyd was not constant with any of his attack. To call his offense constant is wrong.

          Oscar should have kept throwing the jab, even if Floyd's retalitation was constant (which it was not) and he would have had a better fight.

          That's not to say Floyd would not have dealt with it in some way. But we do not know.

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          • enadeus
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            #105
            I scored the fight 115-113, 7 rounds to 5 for Mayweather. I gave the last three rounds to Mayweather. That is where Oscar lost the fight, if he took at least one of the three it would have been a draw on my scorecards. He fell apart in the long run, but I do see his argument that Mayweather has to get the championship from him...but this fight was not about the championship.

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            • The Troll
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              #106
              Originally posted by Black Jesus
              You cant beat what you cant touch, period. If Oscar landed these huge shots you all say he did, floyd would be laid out on that canvas as we speak.
              Yeah looking at it the second time Mayweather wasn't even grazed in this fight. Not even grazed baby.

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              • The Troll
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                #107
                A 'huge shot' by the way would be like a flush left hook that would knock out most middleweights. If your going to say that Floyd landed the harder punches, the more damaging punches, fine. I disagree.

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                • El Jesus
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
                  Well, you are just wrong. Floyd was not constant with any of his attack. To call his offense constant is wrong.

                  Oscar should have kept throwing the jab, even if Floyd's retalitation was constant (which it was not) and he would have had a better fight.

                  That's not to say Floyd would not have dealt with it in some way. But we do not know.
                  I am just wrong about Oscar not throwing the jab and eating right hands at will, right. His retaliation was constant enough for him to stop using it. Period.

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                  • Super_Lightweight
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                    #109
                    You can think what you wish.

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                    • daveyboy77
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                      #110
                      I admit I am biased...i respect an UNDEFEATED champ. He fought a smart fight and won decisevely. I give credit to ODH because was aggressive but he kept charging in every minute or two but not jabbing or landing any power punches. So his strategy didnt work whereas PBM waited for opportunities and made the mose of them especially in the 12th. If you want to see him toe to toe-and I do too- we can hope he fights Wright because PBM cant escape him. I know everyone will say Wright will crush him, but again you cant dismiss anyone who is 38-0.

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