Mayweather-De La Hoya: Great Fight, Wrong Decision

[The Troll]

Jeff Lacy is a heavier puncher than Calzaghe, you still have to land, which just as Jeff didn't do, Oscar didn't land anything major. His jab kept him in the fight, and when it went, he went.

So, sure, Oscar is the bigger hitter, but did he land ANYTHING of consequence the entire fight? And how does it look when he actually does land something, and he sees Mayweather smiling back at him.

I stopped reading this post the second your comparing De La Hoya Mayweather to Calzaghe Lacy in any fascination.

[pbftxrs316]

One of the worst cliches in boxing. When a fighter steps into the ring, they don't have to have the title taken, they also have to do enough to keep it. A belt is up for grabs and belongs to no one as soon as the bell for round 1 rings.

Terrible.

another great point. damn kid, you're good.

[Double]

I suppose you're not biased are you lol look at all your Mayweather ****. Floyd showed us again that he is scared to really FIGHT. Why? cos he's a *****, I want too see him go toe to toe with ANYONE. Wont happen though.

Floyd is a natural junior welter giving up 20 pounds the night of the fight to DLH. Why would you go toe to toe and **** with the anturally bigger man when that's not the best way for you to win? Floyd can fight that way when facing guys 140 and below but not at 147 and above. However, he did stand and trade with Zab and Gatti.

[Mattyp151]

I stopped reading this post the second your comparing De La Hoya Mayweather to Lacy Calzaghe.

Or even Likening Mayweather to Calzaghe or De La Hoya to Lacy in any fascination.

You got hung up in an analogy because you have no answer.

Oscar = bigger puncher
Lacy = bigger puncher

In the fights I referenced, did either guy land ANYTHING of consequence? No.

Now, as you brought up the question of "who's the biggest puncher" I answered. Now answer mine:

"How much of a bigger puncher is Oscar if the guy he is hitting smiles back whenever he gets hit?"

[pbftxrs316]

I stopped reading this post the second your comparing De La Hoya Mayweather to Lacy Calzaghe.

Or even Likening Mayweather to Calzaghe or De La Hoya to Lacy in any fascination.

then you obviously shouldn't have responded to it dumbass. because of it you read the post in full like you should have, then you would see how he was comparing a heavier pucnher to a lighter puncher, and how the heavier puncher must land shots effectively on the lighter puncher to win rounds. he used lacy and calhzaghe because lacy was the heavier puncher but calzaghe landed the clearer shots and lacy didn't land too effectively on joe, just like oscar didn't the clearer shots on floyd like floyd landed on oscar... so read up a little better next....oh hell, just forget it.

[brian99]

I agree with the writer and this fight reminded me of hagler/leonard in many ways. I feel both fights should have been draws, in may 5th's case because in the rounds where neither man was very effective I gave them to oscar due to his aggression.

[The Troll]

then you obviously shouldn't have responded to it dumbass. because of it you read the post in full like you should have, then you would see how he was comparing a heavier pucnher to a lighter puncher, and how the heavier puncher must land shots effectively on the lighter puncher to win rounds. he used lacy and calhzaghe because lacy was the heavier puncher but calzaghe landed the clearer shots and lacy didn't land too effectively on joe, just like oscar didn't the clearer shots on floyd like floyd landed on oscar... so read up a little better next....oh hell, just forget it.

your calling me a dumbass but at the time likening De La Hoya Mayweather to Lacy Calzaghe.

[The Troll]

if that's the premis of your post i'm not bothering with anything beneath it.

[riza]

mayweather won clearly enough for me. but people need to realise oscar did do well catching many punches, and floyd would throw a lot of jabs that just did not even reach oscar. this is what ****ed up the punch stats, no way did floyd land all those punches.
it made it seem like he was more active than oscar but he did not land as many punches as people think.

[pbftxrs316]

You're reaching.

You can't take outside opinions into a fight (who's the heavier puncher, who's not), because then you're scoring this fight on past fights. That's no longer being individually subjective each fight, you're lumping non-associated fights together.

On Saturday night, Floyd was getting to Oscar and he was hitting Oscar with some good shots. For every effective flurry (which were about once a round), Mayweather fired back 5-6-7 straight rights that caught Oscar right in the chops. So, for every 2 or 3 punches Oscar landed in bunches (every 2 minutes), Floyd was pacing his aggression out, and striking at the best opporunities.

Hurting you're opponent is effective aggression, true, but what Oscar did on Saturday was not effective. I watched the fight with some boxing fans and some friends who could careless about the sport but were interested. By the end of round 11, they all knew who won. By round 8, Oscar's aggression and ring generalship became walk forward, get hit on the way in, forget to jab, and try and knock him out with a flurry.

Don't know if I stated it earlier, but I had it 116-113 for Mayweather, and had it 86-85 for Mayweather after round 9, so it's not like I don't think it was a close fight. However, per Oscar's MO, when it came to winning big rounds late in a fight, he didn't....again.

kid, you're a hell of a poster. you're very observant, and make great points man. you remind me of...well myself in a lot of ways. you know what you're talking about man. keep it up, you're great.