Mayweather-De La Hoya: Great Fight, Wrong Decision

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  • Technical_Skill
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    #41
    Originally posted by freedom213
    Your opinion, but I also had the fight a draw. I remember the days when effective aggresion moving your opponent backwards and landing the harder shots actually won rounds. Floyd fought a good fight especially in the latter rounds but outside of the 1st round he lost all thru the 6th and he lost the lost 12th. But I have to admit its time for him to retire because I am tired of watching his style at this weight. He is too small and scared to stand and throw punches at this weight class and I am not a fan of his big mouth and BS statements. This fight definitely closes the door on the possibility that he could ever become the GOAT and for that matter if he retires he will be far below the likes of Duran, Leonard etc. Fighters with heart and far superior skills! But dont take down your posters just yet Technical, maybe his balls will drop and he will go back down and fight his mandatory...
    Oh please, why even waste time on this,

    Have you seen the post fight interview on boxing scene?

    Watch it, he is praises de la hoya, just watch it,

    I dont think Mayweather is the greatest of all time anyways

    Skills wise, yes, perhaps,

    Legacy no.

    114-114, Lmao, you talking about fight night round 3?

    Or the fight on may 5th?

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      #42
      Originally posted by Technical_Skill
      Much the weaker puncher?

      bro watch round 5, de la hoya had him on the ropes and got caught with a vicious counter left, his legs buckled then he pull himself up again, how could you miss that?

      Round 12 straight right buckled his legs again, he almost fell there too.
      I'm not your bro. And De La Hoya was not at any time hurt by Mayweather. If you want to look at this strictly from who layed more punishment, clearly De La Hoya put more hurt on Mayweather than the other way around.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Technical_Skill
        Oh please, why even waste time on this,

        Have you seen the post fight interview on boxing scene?

        Watch it, he is praises de la hoya, just watch it,

        I dont think Mayweather is the greatest of all anyways

        Skills wise, yes, perhaps,

        Legacy no.

        114-114, Lmao, you talking about fight night round 3?

        Or the fight on may 5th?
        If it's inconcievable to you that this fight could have been scored a draw either your blindly biased towards Mayweather, towards his style of fighting, or have no idea at all on how to ajudge fights.

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        • Technical_Skill
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          #44
          Originally posted by The Fan Man
          I'm not your bro. And De La Hoya was not at any time hurt by Mayweather. If you want to look at this point strictly from who layed more punishment to clearly De La Hoya put more hurt on Mayweather than the other way around.
          Listen, im tying to be polite here, be nice.

          One more time, you dont give round to a guy clearly missing the majority of his shots wether he is agressive or not.

          De La Hoya clearly took the harder shots during the fight, after round 9 he was a stationary target.

          In round 12 mayweather teed off on him, de la hoya did nothing but land a decent exchange during the last 5 or so seconds,

          Yet people give round 12 to DLH?

          Nope, im going with Lederman, Kellerman, BBC, ESPN and people who know how to score a fight

          116-112 or 117-111 Mayweather.

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          • Mattyp151
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            #45
            Originally posted by The Fan Man
            I deal with this one at a time. When your the heavier puncher, by FAR. Landing volumes of punches landing the harder punches and dictating where the fight the is fought IS effective agression.

            When your doing damage and in some cases HURTING YOUR OPPONENT, that IS effective agression. There's also the issue of outworking your opponent asside from purely effective agression.
            You're reaching.

            You can't take outside opinions into a fight (who's the heavier puncher, who's not), because then you're scoring this fight on past fights. That's no longer being individually subjective each fight, you're lumping non-associated fights together.

            On Saturday night, Floyd was getting to Oscar and he was hitting Oscar with some good shots. For every effective flurry (which were about once a round), Mayweather fired back 5-6-7 straight rights that caught Oscar right in the chops. So, for every 2 or 3 punches Oscar landed in bunches (every 2 minutes), Floyd was pacing his aggression out, and striking at the best opporunities.

            Hurting you're opponent is effective aggression, true, but what Oscar did on Saturday was not effective. I watched the fight with some boxing fans and some friends who could careless about the sport but were interested. By the end of round 11, they all knew who won. By round 8, Oscar's aggression and ring generalship became walk forward, get hit on the way in, forget to jab, and try and knock him out with a flurry.

            Don't know if I stated it earlier, but I had it 116-113 for Mayweather, and had it 86-85 for Mayweather after round 9, so it's not like I don't think it was a close fight. However, per Oscar's MO, when it came to winning big rounds late in a fight, he didn't....again.

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            • Technical_Skill
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              #46
              Originally posted by The Fan Man
              If it's inconcievable to you that this fight could have been scored a draw either your blindly biased towards Mayweather, towards his style of fighting, or have no idea at all on how to ajudge fights.
              Shut up, post your scorecard up so we can see it.

              i scored rounds 2-4 for de la hoya, meaning i had him 3-1 up,

              i dont let bias get in the way of scoring,

              lets now see you round by round please.

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                #47
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                It is not all that subjective judging a fight. Mayweather landed about 86 more punches tha ODH. 86. and 44 more power punches. 44. I could go on in detail but there is no need-12 round-Mayweather conncected way more and more powerfully. Should have been unanimous. ODH won wrong decisions with Whittaker and Quartey. You don't get decisions just because you are a legend (? a legend yes..... but not an elite g.o.a.t). Mayweather fought the right fight for him to win. Now bring on Wright!! We all know Mayweather is worth more now and will fight again soon.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Technical_Skill
                  Listen, im tying to be polite here, be nice.

                  One more time, you dont give round to a guy clearly missing the majority of his shots wether he is agressive or not.

                  De La Hoya clearly took the harder shots during the fight, after round 9 he was a stationary target.

                  In round 12 mayweather teed off on him, de la hoya did nothing but land a decent exchange during the last 5 or so seconds,

                  Yet people give round 12 to DLH?

                  Nope, im going with Lederman, Kellerman, BBC, ESPN and people who know how to score a fight

                  116-112 or 117-111 Mayweather.
                  He wasn't missing most of his shots. His shots were hitting Floyd if not on head everr single time about his body and arms. When you judge a fight you don't only score the punches that land very flashily on the head. And the heavier puncher MUST get more credit for the shots he lands.

                  You judge this fight the same way an olympic amateur judges pushing buttons would.

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                  • The Troll
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by daveyboy77
                    It is not all that subjective judging a fight. Mayweather landed about 86 more punches tha ODH. 86. and 44 more power punches. 44. I could go on in detail but there is no need-12 round-Mayweather conncected way more and more powerfully. Should have been unanimous. ODH won wrong decisions with Whittaker and Quartey. You don't get decisions just because you are a legend (? a legend yes..... but not an elite g.o.a.t). Mayweather fought the right fight for him to win. Now bring on Wright!! We all know Mayweather is worth more now and will fight again soon.
                    And you don't score fights according to compubox either. Compubox is also subject to human interpretation and error you know.

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                    • James78
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by bishop2006
                      Great fight terrible article,more like it should have been a UD for Mayweather,there is no way Oscar should have won neither should it have been a draw
                      I suppose you're not biased are you lol look at all your Mayweather ****. Floyd showed us again that he is scared to really FIGHT. Why? cos he's a *****, I want too see him go toe to toe with ANYONE. Wont happen though.

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