Mayweather-De La Hoya: Great Fight, Wrong Decision

[Technical_Skill]

He wasn't missing most of his shots. His shots were hitting Floyd if not on head everr single time about his body and arms.

Lmao. classic post.

1) You telling me he was landing most of his shots? ill let someone else laugh at that one.

2)Shots that hit arms, its called blocking, mayweather makes the shots hit arms, the punches dont hit their intended target.

the heavier puncher MUST get more credit for the shots he lands.

This is ludicrous, so, if im 148, and you weight 160, i hit you with more punches than you do........ you score more cos your the 'heavier puncher'?

lol.

You judge this fight the same way an olympic amateur judges pushing buttons would.

Really? since when could they ever score a fight? and they only score head shots i think anyways.

[pbftxrs316]

Good point. However I scored the fight for De La Hoya, and I am no ****ing De La Hoya fan believe me. Although neither fighter really landed any telling blows, I thought De La Hoya landed more. I mean Floyd was on his bike the whole night, he was flicking his jab and throwing a few counters. If you watch round 3, you will notice that virtually all Floyds punches hit glove.
Mayweather was never really in trouble, but there is no way he did enough to win that fight. People who are saying it should have been unanimous really need to watch the fight closely. It is scored round by round and De La Hoya won more rounds in that fight.

i've watched the fight 10 times now since may 5th, and floyd should've got the unanimous decison. max kellerman said it best, oscar's only effective punch was hi sjab when he used it, other than that, floyd threw the more clearer, more accurate punches throughout the fight. oscar flurried a lot in the fight, but floyd blocked many of them. i have comcast, so i paused the rounds and then fast forwarded them so the fight was in slow motion. i watched the fight so many times this way also, and floyd blocked many of oscar's flurries. floyd threw the cleaner, more effective punches. he didn't counter like you claim. he punched to the body followed by a right hook a lot. he did counter punches but not like you think. his most used punch was his right hook and his jab was also used a lot. floyd went to the body and looped his right hand and it was clear it caught oscar a lot. oscar snapped floyd's head back with his jab, but floyd's defense was good against oscar's power punches. when oscar forced floyd to the ropes, floyd dipped and ducked a lot of his punches except the one to his body and a few upstairs, but oscar held floyd and hit him in his body 7 or 8 times, and those shots were clear, but other than that, most of them were not. floyd timed his punches well, although he did hit oscar's gloves a lot in the 3rd, the punches that got through were clearly through and his accuracy was high in this round which he won. oscar imo won rounds 7 and 8, but lost 9 to 11, and won 12. i gave oscar at the most rounds 1, 7,8, and 12. floyd won decisively even though he was less active, he fought smart, and his shots were picked right. oscar looked more aggressive but floyd's shots were much clearer than oscar's besides oscar's jab when he threw it. floyd landed a vicious right hand followed by a very quick left hook in the 5th round which he won clearly, and i think that was the round that made oscar a little confused, because the angles floyd were punching at threw oscar off, like i thought they would. oscar fought harder, but floyd fought smarter, which is why he should have won a unianimous decoision.

[Mattyp151]

He wasn't missing most of his shots. His shots were hitting Floyd if not on head everr single time about his body and arms. When you judge a fight you don't only score the punches that land very flashily on the head. And the heavier puncher MUST get more credit for the shots he lands.

You judge this fight the same way an olympic amateur judges pushing buttons would.

Stop stop stop stop stop.

Floyd was hardly ever hit on the body, most of those shots were catching elbows. There was one flurry that comes to mind where Oscar pounded him to the ribs. Now, you say the heavier puncher must get credit? How are you going to give him credit while the guy he is hitting is smiling while he does it? You don't score point for hitting elbows and arms, or else WInky Wright would never win a fight. part of scoring is defense, and if you score those as landed punches, you're negating 25% of the scoring. Also, Oscar's best punch was the jab...how much damage is that truly doing?

We're not calling it olympic scoring, we're being realistic. You seem to have this idea that not once did Floyd hurt Oscar...go watch the 5th round, 10th, 11th, and 12th, you'll see Oscar getting zinged big time.

[pbftxrs316]

Lmao. classic post.

1) You telling me he was landing most of his shots? ill let someone else laugh at that one.

2)Shots that hit arms, its called blocking, mayweather makes the shots hit arms, the punches dont hit their intended target.



This is ludicrous, so, if im 148, and you weight 160, i hit you with more punches than you do........ you score more cos your the 'heavier puncher'?

lol.



Really? since when could they ever score a fight? and they only score head shots i think anyways.

i am laughing at what he or she posted also. it makes little to no sense. great response to them though.

[bigzee]

max needs a brain transplant

theres no way Mayweather took the title.......it was close, but no cigar.........Floyd looked absolutely terrible and i had money on him. He reminded me of Roy Jones and his "pot-shotting"......it was pathetic ....he might of threw 2 combinations all night. Compu-box??????.....when did they start counting punches that dont even come close to landing?.....Mayweathers punches,when he punched were short all night. Max Kellerman should be fired from HBO. Hes always liked the herky jerky boxers like Spadafora ,Whitaker,Jones and Mayweather.........Listen, De La Hoya was supposed to be embarrassed by this guy .but....Oscar took it to him and at least tried to make a fight out of it...its a bloody shame they took his title away from him.Boxing takes another hit...........As far as that commentating crew at HBO...its getting worse and worse......Lampley never shuts up talking about nothing and Emmanual is losing it too......as crazy as it sounds, Larry Merchant is the only one that brings any sanity to this crew of stooges....nuff said........

[The Troll]

Lmao. classic post.

1) You telling me he was landing most of his shots? ill let someone else laugh at that one.

2)Shots that hit arms, its called blocking, mayweather makes the shots hit arms, the punches dont hit their intended target.



This is ludicrous, so, if im 148, and you weight 160, i hit you with more punches than you do........ you score more cos your the 'heavier puncher'?

lol.


Really? since when could they ever score a fight? and they only score head shots i think anyways.

I'll just adress this point. So De La Hoya is not a significantly heavier puncher than Mayweather then correct?

[Mattyp151]

theres no way Mayweather took the title

One of the worst cliches in boxing. When a fighter steps into the ring, they don't have to have the title taken, they also have to do enough to keep it. A belt is up for grabs and belongs to no one as soon as the bell for round 1 rings.

Terrible.

[Technical_Skill]

I'll just adress this point. So De La Hoya is not a significantly heavier puncher than Mayweather then correct?

Yep, nice one for dodging the rest of it,

Yes DLH hits harder than mayweather, thing is, how much harder we dont know, cos he hardly landed anything clean other than a few good jabs,

Mayweather landed on him cleanly throughout the fight,

Yes Compubox stats can be wrong, but by 100 landed punches or summin? i think not

Can someone post the compu box stats please.

[Mattyp151]

I'll just adress this point. So De La Hoya is not a significantly heavier puncher than Mayweather then correct?

Jeff Lacy is a heavier puncher than Calzaghe, you still have to land, which just as Jeff didn't do, Oscar didn't land anything major. His jab kept him in the fight, and when it went, he went.

So, sure, Oscar is the bigger hitter, but did he land ANYTHING of consequence the entire fight? And how does it look when he actually does land something, and he sees Mayweather smiling back at him.

[pbftxrs316]

Stop stop stop stop stop.

Floyd was hardly ever hit on the body, most of those shots were catching elbows. There was one flurry that comes to mind where Oscar pounded him to the ribs. Now, you say the heavier puncher must get credit? How are you going to give him credit while the guy he is hitting is smiling while he does it? You don't score point for hitting elbows and arms, or else WInky Wright would never win a fight. part of scoring is defense, and if you score those as landed punches, you're negating 25% of the scoring. Also, Oscar's best punch was the jab...how much damage is that truly doing?

We're not calling it olympic scoring, we're being realistic. You seem to have this idea that not once did Floyd hurt Oscar...go watch the 5th round, 10th, 11th, and 12th, you'll see Oscar getting zinged big time.

hell of post, and i like how you incorporated winky's defense into the equation. this was timed great, and it makes sense. winky's defense is blocking with his elbows and arms. if that's the case and if fights are scored by one fighter tounching another fighter than records would be a hell of lot different. winky is a great example of this. floyd at least other than blocking did move well out of the corner and tied oscar up a lot and then oscar used his strength to free himself out of the hugging floyd was doing to land a couple of shots, but majority of the time, floyd's quickness allowed for him to hit oscar back more effectively right away, and i forget what round it was, maybe the 10th round, oscar pushed floyd back to the ropes and tried to hit floyd and floyd hit oscar first twice while oscar was throwing his pucnhes in bunches. floyd timed the punches damn near perfect a couple of times when oscar did this, then he hit oscar 1st, and it threw oscar off. floyd, like i've always claimed, is a much smarter fighter than oscar has ever been, and may 5th, he showed it.