Mayweather: Speed, Power and Its Relationship To Weight

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  • Technical_Skill
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    Mayweather: Speed, Power and Its Relationship To Weight

    First of all Congratulations to Floyd Mayweather, i didnt give my prediction on the fight because i couldnt be bothered to get heat over it, i went with PBF by late tko. (although i also saw ways for DLH to win)

    As i have said in earlier posts this week, after this fight, people need to re-evaluate the relationship between puching power and weight.

    People keep making the mistake of assuming that when a lighter man moves up in weight he loses power, rather than gains it, i belive this is wrong, i believe it depends on the individuals muscle structure and physique.

    Mayweather clearly has the muscle mass to fight at 154 and hurt people, im told he hurt De La Hoya several times in this fight, and thats totally what i expected. Before i give the reasons why i wanna give a few 'shout outs'.

    Super Cartel, Kendal Holt, Paulie Mallinaghi, and some others who's names im going to edit into this thread clearly understood the relationship.

    The Kendal Holt prediction on boxing scene was spot on, SPEED IS POWER. In my eyes there is a difference between 'one punch power', which PBF doesnt have much of at 154, and 'accumilation power' of which he has plenty.
    As i have said since my arrival here, if somebody hits you quicky and repeatedly in the same areas, it translates into power, any fighter can be hurt under these circumstances. Holt said words to this effect.

    ''If somebody hits hits you with quick combinations in bunches and bunches, it does tend to hurt''.

    Of course, this works both ways, if Mayweather now tries to boil down to 140,he could lose power and speed through unhealthy procedures of losing weight, like toney and jones. Weight loss is one of the most dangerous things in boxing, losing weight through dehydration and then taking hard punches to head, is a major factor in deaths in the ring. Therefore, if PBF was to go back down in weight, he might lose power, dont assume he will be able to knock guys out again.

    On the fight itself, i havent seen it, i listened to the thing live, im looking forward to watching it, the fight highlights a clear cut problem with boxing,

    Scoring.

    Credit to the BBC who were ringside for giving us an insight into what many people feel was an attempt to screw mayweather, how one judge can have it 116-112 and another 115-113 for the other guy says it all.

    No consistency in judging, and boxing is still riddled with dodgy dealings,

    I now think open scoring is needed, i dont care about suspense, open scoring would have let everyone know the scoring was taking a wrong turn and something wrong was clearly going on, on the cards.

    Credit to De La Hoya, seems he gave PBF problems, but it also seemed PBF fought the wrong tactics early on, ill get to that if and when i see this fight.

    So thats my take on things, does this fight change the way you judge power and speed in relation to weight?
    Last edited by Technical_Skill; 05-06-2007, 06:46 AM.
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    As well as giving this an all round bump,

    I wanna know how you people score fights in general, there is obvously a problem with scoring, perhaps it is left to interpretation too much,

    Should there be guidlines on how boxing fights should be scored?

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    • Technical_Skill
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      #3
      Gonna bump this, old skool thread.

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      • Banderivets
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        #4
        I think I'll lay off boxingscene until there is a heavy fight because all this mayweather is driving me nuts.

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        • Technical_Skill
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          #5
          Originally posted by Ukr_Alex
          I think I'll lay off boxingscene until there is a heavy fight because all this mayweather is driving me nuts.
          I know what you mean, this thread isnt really all about mayweather tho, but i realised after i bumped it, mayweather was in the title, so i inadvertanly contributed to the widespread mayweather-hatton spaming im trying to get away from.

          If everyone wants to ignore this one, its fine by me.

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          • SkillspayBills
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            #6
            Most of Mayweather's ko's were do to the towel being thrown in or the ref stopping it due to the pounding a fighter was taking. That is the type of power he has, you hit the nail on the head with that definition. However floyd came into that fight as a welterweight anyway and he has filled out that 147 pound body so I think he will show one hell of a punch in his next fight, we just have to wait and see. However people like shane mosley gained weight by working out, thus making them slower which didn't really help their power. It's like a double edged sword.
            Last edited by SkillspayBills; 08-19-2007, 12:55 PM.

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            • kayjay
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              #7
              Originally posted by Technical_Skill
              I know what you mean, this thread isnt really all about mayweather tho, but i realised after i bumped it, mayweather was in the title, so i inadvertanly contributed to the widespread mayweather-hatton spaming im trying to get away from.

              If everyone wants to ignore this one, its fine by me.
              You bumped it four times until you got a reply.

              I'll ask you this, if Hatton were to beat Mayweather, where would it rank among your all time sporting upsets?

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              • Technical_Skill
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                Originally posted by kayjay
                You bumped it four times until you got a reply.

                I'll ask you this, if Hatton were to beat Mayweather, where would it rank among your all time sporting upsets?
                Check the dates, i bumped it four times, over the course of 3 months, not today, it has nothing to do with Hatton,

                If people choose to ignore this, its fine by me.

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                • kayjay
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Technical_Skill
                  Check the dates, i bumped it four times, over the course of 3 months, not today, it has nothing to do with Hatton,

                  If people choose to ignore this, its fine by me.
                  Sure, but answer my question anyway.

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                  • Technical_Skill
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by kayjay
                    Sure, but answer my question anyway.
                    I watch alot of sport, so i have seen alot of upsets, i really dont wanna do the hatton mayweather thing in here.

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