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  • Diablo
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    #31
    Floyd Sr. was asking for a 2 mil to train Oscar for this fight. That's why Oscar decided to dump him and go with Freddie.

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    • tykilroy
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      #32
      Originally posted by wmute
      yeah right so now trash talking is worse than doing everything you possibly could to rig the fight in your favor...

      **** why not have a convex ring so cutting the ring is easier? or let's have mayweather fight with 2 pounds on each ankle so he actually is 154

      gimme a break...

      I dont like mayweather's trash talking, but talking is talking, offering ***** contracts is offering ***** contracts...
      WTF you mean riggin a fight in your favor ?
      So the rings smaller so the gloves are smaller who cares.
      Its a ****in fight not a marathon.

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      • The Troll
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        #33
        De La Hoya's level agression and how he uses his jab will be major factors in this fight.

        Mayweather has a good jab himself that sets up alot of his other offense but that can be nullified by De La Hoya's longer, harder jab. If he establishes the jab well he might be able to fight Mayweather at a range where Mayweather won't be able to do much offensively. Mayweather would probably have to become more of the agressor in that scenario which he'd probably prefer not to be.

        I'd rather fight Mayweather by just roughing him up as much as possible for as many rounds and possible, push him, lean on him, hit him in clinches, throw volumes of punches all about his body and make him FIGHT me. But working off the jab could do alot of good things for De La Hoya.
        Last edited by The Troll; 05-05-2007, 03:29 AM.

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          #34
          Originally posted by DLT
          Im the biggest Floyd fan there is but this fight has always worried me. P4P Floyd is easily the better fighter and at 147 I thought Floyd would kill him but at 154 its a different ball game. I have always felt that Floyd is moving up in weight way too quickly. Now he's fighting at 154 when he's never even weighed over 150 in his whole life. In the ring Floyd will probally still be 150 while Oscar will be 170 but we probally wont know for sure because Oscar is too much of a ***** to let the public ever see his ring weight.

          Oscar is still an elite fighter who still has very good speed & power. Then you add to that all the stipulations Oscar made for this fight and he gets the clear advantage. I honestly dont know what to expect from this fight. Part of me thinks Floyd will just flat out kill him but part of me thinks that the weight & power factor will be a huge shock to Floyd's system. I just dont know how his body will respond to the weight. Will he have blazing speed and be even stronger or will it make him slower and he will look more stiff? I try to watch tapes of there last couple of fights and I still go back & forths. I think if Floyd fights like he did against Baldy then he will be in serious trouble. He will definatly not be able to pot shot Oscar to a victory. I think to win this fight Floyd has to go back to the way he fought Chico. Being very active, darting in & out, and landing blistering combos. Not running but having constant movement. Then when the time is right he should go toe to toe with Oscar. People think Floyd cant fight toe to toe with Oscar but thats ******. They make it seem like Floyd always runs but thats a joke. In like 7 of his last 8 fights he's been the one walking the opponent down and he's arguably the best "in-fighter" in the game. He loves to go into the pocket. I think he can do some work on Oscar in the pocket.

          Floyd has been training like a maniac on 24/7. He's always been a training freak but it seems like he's even doing more now to makeup for the weight. Part of me thinks that is great but another part of me thinks he's doing too much and could leave it all in the gym. He might be burning himself out and look completely flat in the ring. The other huge part to me is still Senior. I still dont like the fact that he was in there camp all that time and now he's going back to Oscar. I just have a bad feeling that he's telling Oscar the whole game plan that Roger setup. What if they get in the ring and Oscar knows whats coming? If Senior did that then he would be the biggest *****. Why would he go back to being good with Oscar anyway? Here's the biggest money fight in history & Oscar kicks him out? I would never talk to him again.

          All in all Im worried but I think my boy will show up. He always puts on a show on the big stage. All I know is that the haters better hope he loses because this is basically his last shot to lose. If he fights again then you know it will be at 147 and all this fight did was speed up the process of him getting used to the 147 pound weight. In his next fight back there he will look like a full fledge WW and no one will be able to beat him. The only fight left in his career that would scare me is Mosley but only if its his next fight. I have always said that Floyd would definatly beat Shane because he's the much better defender, is smarter, and can adapt better during a fight. I would worry though if Floyd fought him in his next fight because Shane would be all business while I think Floyd would still be celebrating over the Oscar victory and probally would be on alot of shows. It might be the only time in his career where he would not be fully focused. He still would be good enough to beat anyone else though and he would be good enough to beat Mosley any other time but if its next then it would worry me some.
          That's a lengthy one there..


          The Mayweather family seems to pride itself on skill, and in swatches; taking on oversized opponents.

          It's no thing in their minds, apparently.


          Floyd has everything in the toolbox to make it a non-factor.


          Yet, I do concede he's in very dangerous territory.

          Oscar could probably KO a good number of super middles with his best left hook..

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            #35
            Originally posted by Addison
            That's a lengthy one there..


            The Mayweather family seems to pride itself on skill, and in swatches; taking on oversized opponents.

            It's no thing in their minds, apparently.


            Floyd has everything in the toolbox to make it a non-factor.


            Yet, I do concede he's in very dangerous territory.

            Oscar could probably KO a good number of super middles with his best left hook..
            He might be able to hit him with as well if he really establishes his jab. Or in an exchange of punches.

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              #36
              Originally posted by The Fan Man
              He might be able to hit him with as well if he really establishes his jab. Or in an exchange of punches.
              I hear you.

              Do you think DLH can KO Floyd with the right?..

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                #37
                Originally posted by Addison
                I hear you.

                Do you think DLH can KO Floyd with the right?..
                From one punch, I dont know one way or the other, Mayweather's chin has really never been tested.
                Last edited by The Troll; 05-05-2007, 03:44 AM.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by The Fan Man
                  From one punch, I dont know one way or the other, Mayweather's chin has really never been tested.
                  I agree.

                  I'm guessing anything Oscar lands is going to impress as you suggested.

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                  • wmute
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Stromprophet
                    Oscar is probably a ***** who could KO you in one shot. What does that say?

                    Too me it's simple, one fighter has heart and one is just there for a paycheck. Who do you think that is?
                    can you read the difference between "*****" and *****?

                    if to you is simple, then to me it is even simpler, one fighter is so confident that he'd rather get teh ca$h than the advantages, like hagler against leonard. In hagler's case it did not turn out to be smart.

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                    • wmute
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by tykilroy
                      WTF you mean riggin a fight in your favor ?
                      So the rings smaller so the gloves are smaller who cares.
                      Its a ****in fight not a marathon.
                      with riggin the fight in your favor, I describe the following simple concept:

                      the rules of boxing leave room for contracting on several variables.

                      the number of rounds (not in championship fights)
                      the gloves
                      the size of the ring
                      catchweights

                      and so on

                      clearly smaller ring favors the fighter who's gonna do the cutting off.
                      It's been said that Reyes gloves' padding favors the power puncher and disfavors the fighter with the brittle hands.

                      why do you think that Oscar wanted a small ring, and Leoard wanted a large ring against hagler?

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