While everyone talks about Joe Calzaghe's "mediocre" 20 defenses...

[PROUD MEXICAN]

It's unbelievable some of the guys that Wonjongkam's fighting. I think he has fought guys with less than ten fights. I know he is probably comfortable in Thailand racking up wins against lousy opponents, but at least everyonce in a while fight a real challenger.

I see where y'all are coming from, but how do you guys know that Pongsalek is garbage if none of us have seen the man fight. Are you guys even aware that in some countries depending on the weightclass, the top fighter(s) may actually make more money in his own country or region than if he were to come to America!? This was the case w/ Pongsalek, when asked why the fight w/ Arce never push through. The reward had to be more, just for him to fight out of Thailand. That's just plain dollars and sense to me.

[ThaHorseman]

ThaHorseman runs in the same crowd as the people who hyped Jeff Lacy up to beat Joe Calzaghe, and he'll say no he wasn't now but I bet my life he did. And anyone who wants to fight calzaghe chickens out when they ask for ridiculous amounts of cash. These fighters aren't dumb, Calzaghe can nearly double most fighters workrate in the super-middleweight. Not many others can throw as constant as he can, that doesn't mean he's the fastest like mundine. But he sure throws more then any other super-middleweight. And he is fast still, some people under-estimate his speed aswell.

You don't know a damn thing about me, so don't act like you know what fighters I've hyped and who I haven't. Like I've said numerous times, Calzaghe is a great fighter and I think he'd beat a LOT of top fighters if he actually stepped up. And I was one of the few people who wasn't hyping Lacy. Unlike you I know a good fighter when I see one and Lacy is not a good boxer. Ever since I saw him fight, I was saying he'd get beat when he ran into a good boxer.

[EliteSoldier]

Floyds a great fighter defensively. It's just that I think his chins suspect, and that his chin is weak like the Roger Mayweathers.