Mayweather: "My Power Will Surprise De La Hoya"

[Run]

I'm sure Mayweathers going to have plenty of excuses when he loses to Oscar.

Some of Mayweathers excuses after he loses to oscar.

1) I went up in weight and I lost, sue me

2) I broke my hand

No no, I already know what's going to happen.

Oscar will win a "controversial" decision where he out throws and out lands Floyd but the nuthuggers will say that all of Floyd's accurate punches should have won the fight for him, and it's just back to square one.

Just watch and see, that will be exactly what happens.



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[eazy_mas]

No no, I already know what's going to happen.

Oscar will win a "controversial" decision where he out throws and out lands Floyd but the nuthuggers will say that all of Floyd's accurate punches should have won the fight for him, and it's just back to square one.

Just watch and see, that will be exactly what happens.

it may never happen because DHL get tired quick and Floyd moves around and will make him more tired and when you exhausted the punchs you cant see and are painful.

there are fighters who got TKO by being too tired or retired too

[pelonxsoldier28]

idk how hes gonna surprise oscar if he couldnt hurt baldomir. oscar's taken some heavy shots by the hardest hitters and never been KO'd besides hopkins. floyd will box and box and box and box and box and box and box and box and box and box and box and box and box and box and box. if u got bored reading that over and over again, be ready to be that bored again come may 5th cuz floyd wont stand up toe to toe with oscar. ever.

I AGREE 100 PERCENT

[-EX-]

Well if Oscar doesn't know that Floyd will box he shouldn't have taken the fight. Not every great fighter needs to brawl.

[JHAVIS]

No no, I already know what's going to happen.

Oscar will win a "controversial" decision where he out throws and out lands Floyd but the nuthuggers will say that all of Floyd's accurate punches should have won the fight for him, and it's just back to square one.

Just watch and see, that will be exactly what happens.

DUDE ARE YOU SERIOUS? FLOYD IS THE MOST ACCURATE BOXER IN THE GAME. HITTING OSCAR ISNT GOING TO BE A PROBLEM AT ALL. THE PROBLEM BE, "CAN OSCAR HIT FLOYD"? LAZY ASS OSCAR SURE ISNT GOING TO THROW MORE PUNCHES EITHER. BY ROUND 6, HE WILL BE TOTALLY OUT OF GAS.

[shawn_]

Floyd is not nearly as elusive as people make him out to be. He has good foot work and can avoid you if you try and pressure him (see baldomir / corrales), but if you actualy look at the punch stats, good fighters have a fairly high connect percentage on him. Zab Judah had a 40% power punch connect percentage in their fight. If Floyd lets Oscar connect with 40% of his power punches, he will not last the night. Jose Luis Castillo landed power punches at a rate of 46% on Mayweather. If Floyd lets Oscar connect with 46% of his power punches floyd wont make it out of the first half of the fight.

Mayweather also only throws an average of 39 punches per round compared to Oscars average of 54 punches per round. Are you trying to tell me that the Las Vegas judges are going to give Mayweather rounds for throwing less punches than Oscar, and running?

[pelonxsoldier28]

mayweather fans, i know you like pbf, but here are the facts. pbf has not fought anyone that was worth a damn. gatti was over the hill and finished, baldomer, please he looked like john ruiz only smaller, pure bum. zab juda was and is a nobody that fought nobodys. and to hear about pbf's boxing style, please running is not an art, you don't have to stand toe to toe but you do need to box. and that's not about what i'm sayin, that's what the fans have shown. baldomer, mayweather fight, fans were leaving after the 8th round, booing for having wasting money to see mayweather jab and run around the ring, he looked like a chicken running around the coup. if that's what he thinks boxing is, and why he should be mentioned with the greats like robinson, ali, and sugar ray, then he's got another thing comming to him. to earn respect in this sport and keep it, he needs to shut his mouth, fight every respectable fighter in his weight class comming up. he did'nt fight cintron, margarito, cotto. he looks to be duckin and diving to fight the least hungry opponents, or the over the hill opponents. and yes i'm a odlh fan, and yes i think oscar is over the hill too. last but not least, pbf says weight has nothing to with anything, ok tough guy, go up to the next weight class and see taylor, castillejo, winky, hopkins, trinidad. no? i don't think so. as far as i'm concerned the only boxers worth a damn he's fought or will ever fight are the ones that are at the end of their carears. lets just call pbf the roy jones junior of the lighter weight class. go up a weight class and get knocked out.

[pbftxrs316]

mayweather fans, i know you like pbf, but here are the facts. pbf has not fought anyone that was worth a damn. gatti was over the hill and finished, baldomer, please he looked like john ruiz only smaller, pure bum. zab juda was and is a nobody that fought nobodys. and to hear about pbf's boxing style, please running is not an art, you don't have to stand toe to toe but you do need to box. and that's not about what i'm sayin, that's what the fans have shown. baldomer, mayweather fight, fans were leaving after the 8th round, booing for having wasting money to see mayweather jab and run around the ring, he looked like a chicken running around the coup. if that's what he thinks boxing is, and why he should be mentioned with the greats like robinson, ali, and sugar ray, then he's got another thing comming to him. to earn respect in this sport and keep it, he needs to shut his mouth, fight every respectable fighter in his weight class comming up. he did'nt fight cintron, margarito, cotto. he looks to be duckin and diving to fight the least hungry opponents, or the over the hill opponents. and yes i'm a odlh fan, and yes i think oscar is over the hill too. last but not least, pbf says weight has nothing to with anything, ok tough guy, go up to the next weight class and see taylor, castillejo, winky, hopkins, trinidad. no? i don't think so. as far as i'm concerned the only boxers worth a damn he's fought or will ever fight are the ones that are at the end of their carears. lets just call pbf the roy jones junior of the lighter weight class. go up a weight class and get knocked out.

this argument was full of ****. now, take notes on how a real argument is suppose to look buddy boy.\

pbf fans like myself back him up and defend him, because they appreciate his legacy in professional boxing. it's really funny to me, that when a couple of pbf fans back him up, they are called nuthuggers, ball lickers, and many other sexually explicit terms, before they are called fans. i know boxing like the back of my hand, and i know boxing is an artform, yes, a figting artform, but nonetheless, it is an artform. floyd mayweather has boxing skills that are rarely seen in boxing today. he is a complete fighter. he is not the most powerful puncher, he is not the most active puncher, but he is the smartest fighter in boxing because he knows how to win with the attributes he has. he is fast, a great counterpuncher, quick upperbody movement, great footwork, great accuracy, timing, defense, and he knows how to posiiton his body at the right time to score the points. floyd mayweather was born into the sport of boxing. once a boxer, always a boxer. his father trained him to de defensive as a kid, and his uncle roger trained him in other regards, but floyd is going to be floyd. all i read from many people on hear is how disrespectful floyd mayweather is to other great fighters, how he has no class, and in that regards that is okay to argue, but when you start basing fights off of that, then you lose substance with your arguments. saying floyd will get his ass whooped by such and such right after saying he has no outside class, means nothing logical. you people find every excuse in the book to take away from floyd's legacy in boxing. so what he thinks he's the best fighter ever. what's wrong with that? no a damn thing. he has so much confidence in his skills and knowledge of the sport, that he feels that he's the best ever. ali felt it, i'm sure srr felt it, and many other great fighters felt it. floyd talks a lot of trash, but trains his ass off, and he has backed up all of his talking from day 1.

many people on here claim, he never fought anybody of serious competition. well, then don't get mad at him. get mad at the boxing experts and other fighters and the p4p lists that have him at number 1. they are to blame for where he is at. you'd have to be really naive not to realize that floyd has been atop the p4p list for a few years now. why get mad at him, because you don't hold the level of his opposition high? he's only doing his job and what he loves, boxing. then you people criticize the way he fights, and many of you haven't even watched his whole professional career, and base many of your arguments off of columns and other comments on this forum. you people claim he potshoots and runs and doesn't fight, and wins in boring fashion. has the man never claimed many times, that the less you get hit, the longer you last in the sport of boxing people? no, he's never not claimed that. it's no secret, floyd is an artist in the ring, and he knows how to win the best way he knows how. his punch output has never really been high, because it's not in his gameplan, a gameplan, nobody has mastered yet. so, he does what works for him. since when has boxing become a punching match. floyd's no dumby. he's crafty, slick, and well conditioned for his fights all the time. the man has proved he's got what it takes to be where he is right now. he knows how to win under any circumstances. he wins in adverse situations, and many of you people downplay his victories. he wins when he is down, and many of you people downplay his wins. i don't understand you people. all i've seen is threads bashing floyd mayweather junior since i've been on this forum. you people can hate the man's guts for all i care, but until you can do what he does and do it in a winning fashion, then what you say don't mean ****. until you can dominate in boxing the way he has, then your criticism does't hold any ground. until floyd mayweather loses, which he won't, then all of your whining and compalining and bashing of him, minus well be nothing more than air, because it don't matter. floyd will be floyd, and that's okay, because he stays true to himself, and that's what matters, and he takes care of business in the ring, where it truly matters at the end of day, so deal with it.

[pbftxrs316]

and that's the bottom line.

[tredh]

For all you PBF haters and suckas

Oscar vs. Floyd -- Breaking down the match up
Part One of Two by Michael DiSanto

Oscar de la Hoya wanted one final mega fight before calling it a career.

It’s not about money. The “Golden Boy” has earned more in his career than any non-heavyweight boxer in history, amassing almost $492 million in total pay-per-view revenue over his illustrious career.

It’s not about titles. De la Hoya (38-4, 30 KOs) is the only fighter in history to win alphabet titles in six different weight classes, grabbing a golden trinket in each division from super featherweight to middleweight.

It certainly isn’t about solidifying his legacy. His career already ranks on par with other all-time greats such as Sugar Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran and Pernell Whitaker. Win, lose or draw, De la Hoya will be a first-ballot Hall of Fame inductee.

De la Hoya chose to face Floyd Mayweather Jr. (37-0, 24 KOs) in this bout for one simple reason -- competition. He wants what may be his career finale to come against the very best in the sport, pound for pound.

It certainly is an admirable decision, but was it a smart one? Oddsmakers are dubious, hanging better than 2-to-1 odds on “Pretty Boy” Floyd, a four-division champion in his own right, when the fight was first announced – only the second time in his career where Oscar opened as the betting underdog.

Do the oddsmakers have it right? Let’s break down the match up.

PHYSICAL STRENGTH

Physical strength, which is very different from punching power, often isn’t a factor in fights involving two skilled boxers. After all, boxing isn’t supposed to involve grabbing, pushing and general wrestling around in the clinch. But Mayweather’s stand-in-the-pocket style opens the door for all of that.

De la Hoya is the physically larger fighter – slightly taller, noticeably wider in his frame and at least 10 pounds heavier in his natural, walking-around weight – and his most effective weight was 147 pounds, compared to 135 pounds for Mayweather. Conventional wisdom, therefore, is that he must be the bigger, stronger fighter.

Bigger, yes. Stronger, no.

Mayweather has deceptively strong legs, which makes him difficult to push around in the ring. And his well-muscled upper body, a product of great genetics and regular rigorous trips to the weight room, gives him the ability to match strength with de la Hoya, a guy who has never been known as a bully at welterweight or junior middleweight.

Advantage: None.

PUNCHING POWER

Despite having similar career knockout ratios, punching power is anything but equal between Saturday night’s combatants. The world was given a vivid reminder of that in the opening round of his most recent bout.

Facing Ricardo Mayorga, a fighter with one of the sturdiest set of whiskers in the game, ate a left hook on the button a little more than half way into the first round. Mayorga didn’t see the punch coming, and he crumbled under its force like he had been shot with a small caliber handgun. Mayorga beat the count, but he went down two more times in the sixth en route to a technical knockout loss.

And he is far from alone. Genaro Hernandez, an aging Julio Cesar Chavez, Rafael Ruelas, Oba Carr and 28 others, in addition to Mayorga, each suffered knockout losses to the Golden Boy. De la Hoya, who is a converted southpaw, may not have a right hand that keeps anyone awake at night, but he has a left hook instills the fear of God into any man below the middleweight division.

Mayweather, by contrast, is not a one-punch knockout puncher, particularly at 154 lbs. He is a guy who breaks fighters down over the course of a fight with an accumulation of shots, rather than a single blow. His brittle hands and defense-first style means that he rarely throws punches with true knockout intent, which further detracts from his power.

He might be able to match right hands with de la Hoya, but he doesn’t have anything in his arsenal that inspires fear of a knockout quite like his opponent’s left hook.

Advantage: de la Hoya.

HAND SPEED

With all due respect to Shane Mosley and Zab Judah, Mayweather has the fastest hands north of 130 lbs, period. De la Hoya, a very fast fighter in his own right, wants to believe that he can match hand speed with Mayweather. But that is more wishful thinking than reality.

Judah tried to convince himself of the same fantasy prior to facing Mayweather in April 2006. After being completely outclassed, principally because of the speed differential, Judah had to accept reality. Very early in the opening round, de la Hoya, who isn’t as fast as Judah, will have no choice but to accept the same reality, if he hasn’t already done so in training camp.

Oscar’s new trainer, Freddie Roach, almost certainly has devised a game plan to try and compensate for a very real differential in speed. Nevertheless, this could be the single biggest factor in the fight, as Oscar isn’t the same type of dominating fighter when facing opponents with superior hand speed – just ask Mosley and Whitaker.

Advantage: Mayweather – by a mile.

CONDITIONING

The world has seen de la Hoya fade late in fights before – several times, in fact. The most famous example was in his bout with Felix Trinidad in 1999. He appeared to tire late in both fights against Mosley. And there is no question that a woefully out-of-shape de la Hoya completely ignored his conditioning while preparing for Felix Sturm.

Mayweather has no such history.

During the multi-city press tour, he cited conditioning as one of the reasons why he would beat de la Hoya. In fact, the pound-for-pound great took the comment so far as to say that he had never before been tired in a fight, challenging people to watch his old fights and find an instance where he appeared to be gassed.

Well, I did just that, watching several of his bouts that lasted beyond the sixth round, including his fights against Judah, Emmanuel Augustus, Genaro Hernandez, Diego Corrales, Jesus Chavez, Carlos Hernandez, Demarcus Corley, Henry Bruseles, Carlos Baldomir, and both of his bouts with Jose Luis Castillo.

Simply put, Floyd might be right. He certainly seemed like the Energizer Bunny.

But one doesn’t have to watch a weekend’s worth of fight tape to realize that Mayweather is one of the best-conditioned athletes in boxing. Spending an afternoon watching one of his legendary workouts in a boxing gym suffices. His intensity in sparring, ferocity with the jump rope and relentlessness hitting the bag or mitts all with minimal rest is beyond impressive, only overshadowed by the fact he never truly appears to be completely winded.

One would think that a properly motivated de la Hoya would be working hard to maximize his gas tank for this fight. Regardless, this one is an easy call.

Advantage: Mayweather – again, by a mile.

DEFENSE

This is another easy category to break down. De la Hoya is an extremely talented defensive fighter. He has wonderful instincts and reflexes, and he knows how to use his front shoulder to roll with and deflect punches, holding his opponents to a mere 29% connect rate in 18 tracked fights, according to CompuBox statistics.

But the fact remains that no reigning champion in any division boasts defensive skills like Mayweather. His instincts and reflexes rank among the best to ever lace up a pair of gloves, and the shoulder-roll style de la Hoya uses is a less effective version of what Mayweather employs.

Floyd tucks his chin behind his left shoulder and keeps his right hand high when he is on the inside so that he is protected from both left hooks and straight right hands. He slips shots by moving his head or dipping at the waist, and he can pick off shots with his gloves seemingly at will.

In the 18 fights that CompuBox tracked, Floyd’s opponents landed a paltry 22% of their punches – a number that beats such defensive stal***** as Roy Jones, Jr. and Pernell Whitaker. He stands right in front of guys and they still cannot hit him cleanly.

Advantage: Mayweather.