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  • deliveryman
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    #51
    Originally posted by Joartcc3
    Dude, you're creaming yourself more the more you try. I suggest you just admit PBF is a joke. Anyway here goes....

    Comparing SRL to PBF is a blasphemy. Don't ever compare a true great to a REAL fake ever again.

    Let's see, apart from good contenders, SRL has beaten, hmm... Duran, Hearns and on paper Hagler ( I consider Hagler the winner ). Now those 3 names are all p4p greats dude.

    You might be kicking yourself in arse why you just put that argument up.

    Money was an issue later in SRL's career because he felt that he was yet to be truly compensated even though he has faced all the challenges and beaten the elites and greats of his era. It's just a simple case of looking to the future since I have already proven my pedigree.

    Now comparing to that fake. What's PBF's resume?
    Gatti
    Baldo
    Judah


    If you know deductive reasoning, explanations are no longer needed.
    LOL.

    The fact that you named those 3 as Floyd's wins, just proves your ignorance. You know absolutely **** about Floyd's career, or the opponents he's faced.

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    • deliveryman
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      #52
      After May 5th, Floyd's top 5 wins would be:

      1. Oscar De La Hoya
      2. Jose Luis Castillo (prime)
      3. Diego Corrales (prime, undefeated, was the betting favorite going into the fight)
      4. Jesus Chavez (prime, 30+ fight win streak)
      5. Genero Hernandez

      Name a fighter today, other than Oscar who's 5th best win is better than Genero Hernandez, who is one considered of the greatest super featherweights ever.
      Last edited by deliveryman; 04-25-2007, 08:48 AM.

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      • Joartcc3
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        #53
        Originally posted by deliveryman
        LOL.

        The fact that you named those 3 as Floyd's wins, just proves your ignorance. You know absolutely **** about Floyd's career, or the opponents he's faced.
        Lols. The fact that you keep on making excuses instead of admitting he's a fake just proves your ignorance. Try harder. Anyone who has a duck and a coward for a p4p king isn't thinking right.

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        • Joartcc3
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          #54
          Originally posted by deliveryman
          After May 5th, Floyd's top 5 wins would be:

          1. Oscar De La Hoya
          2. Jose Luis Castillo (prime)
          3. Diego Corrales (prime, undefeated, was the betting favorite going into the fight)
          4. Jesus Chavez (prime, 30+ fight win streak)
          5. Genero Hernandez

          Name a fighter today, other than Oscar who's 5th best win is better than Genero Hernandez, who is one considered of the greatest super featherweights ever.
          After may 5th.

          1. Castillo - beaten but screwed
          2. an old DLH
          3. Corrales - we all know Corrales is vastly inferior to him
          4. Chavez who?
          5. Hernandez who?

          Gatti
          Ndou
          Baldo
          Judah

          That basically sums up his resume.

          Pretty crappy for a resume.

          Try harder.

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          • IronFistKilla
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            #55
            Originally posted by Joartcc3
            There are two theads already about it, let's discuss it on the earlier thread. And I agree with you.

            I was once a rabid PBF fan who thought he's a candidate for p4p greatness, but when I looked at his resume and analyzed things, I realized something was wrong.

            What convinced me that PBF was a joke was when he insulted Marg, I never really liked Marg but when Marg responded, it was clear he was stuttering like a coward and had the balls to make excuses and settled for Baldo which with all due respect was vastly inferior to him, yet he insisted on fighting him.

            That is not greatness. Only cowardice.


            Sure, fighting the undisputed welterweight champion is a undeniable sign of cowardice.

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            • Joartcc3
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              #56
              Originally posted by IronFistKilla
              Sure, fighting the undisputed welterweight champion is a undeniable sign of cowardice.
              Baldo? Sure dude. Sure.

              Try harder.

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              • abdiel2k3
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                #57
                great fighters isnt just about who ya fought
                its how ya fought them
                thats what to me
                makes great fighters
                great records can be made
                stealen fights cheatin etcs
                but the real great fighters stand out becuz of how they fought AND who
                but mainly how
                like floyd everyone says he fought nobodies
                but alot of those nobodies he fought fought other so called somebodies
                but werent able to handle them as easily as floyd
                thats why i think floyds a great fighter
                dont mistake that for floyd as one of the GREATS

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                • hugh grant
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                  #58
                  A great fighter is someone who dont duck anyone. PBF is said to have fought great fighters and beaten them. Maybe those guys were overrated and due a loss. Hernandez and Corrales. THere records since losing to PBF could easily suggest they were overrated.
                  But you cant rest on your laurels and live off the acclaim of those wins becuase there is always someone around the corner for the next even tougher challenge and PBF hasnt taken it at 140. He is doing good work with boxing DLH but what about the 140 and 147 challenges which might have been even tougher. If he failed those challenges he wouldnt be getting it on wid DLH now.
                  There were good challenges there and he should achieve those goals before moving up.
                  Last edited by hugh grant; 04-26-2007, 06:58 AM.

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                  • jai mari078
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by abdiel2k3
                    great fighters isnt just about who ya fought
                    its how ya fought them
                    thats what to me
                    makes great fighters
                    great records can be made
                    stealen fights cheatin etcs
                    but the real great fighters stand out becuz of how they fought AND who
                    but mainly how
                    like floyd everyone says he fought nobodies
                    but alot of those nobodies he fought fought other so called somebodies
                    but werent able to handle them as easily as floyd
                    thats why i think floyds a great fighter
                    dont mistake that for floyd as one of the GREATS
                    You cant compare how floyd did against some of his competition compare to how other guys did against them because different styles make differnt fights. You can't compare one to the other.

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                    • Joartcc3
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by abdiel2k3
                      great fighters isnt just about who ya fought
                      its how ya fought them
                      thats what to me
                      makes great fighters
                      great records can be made
                      stealen fights cheatin etcs
                      but the real great fighters stand out becuz of how they fought AND who
                      but mainly how
                      like floyd everyone says he fought nobodies
                      but alot of those nobodies he fought fought other so called somebodies
                      but werent able to handle them as easily as floyd
                      thats why i think floyds a great fighter
                      dont mistake that for floyd as one of the GREATS
                      But then again, you forget, greatness is not measured by belts or shallow titles.

                      But by resume. And manner of victory.

                      Running like a chicken from Baldo, a vastly inferior opponent to him is not greatness. It's called sissy. So is insulting Margarito to the bone and then stuttering like a coward making excuses on why he won't fight him.

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