Would Roy Jones get exposed much earlier if he fought better competetion?

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  • beez721
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    #31
    Originally posted by kingroy
    have you actually wathed any jones fights????\

    jones was totallydifferent, when he started he went in there and Knocked you the **** out...after Mclellan he changed a lot...

    jones didnt have a chance to change simply because he was too old to do so at 35, plus tarvers left killed him mentally...
    35 isnt very old these days and he wasnt in any wars. lets not make excuses for him. he may have slipped a bit but he wasnt an old shot fighter by any means when tarver iced him. he got tagged by a clean shot and just couldnt take it. even when he was young light hitting del valle dropped him. he didnt take a good shot and when he was finally hit clean he fell hard

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    • cortdawg25
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      #32
      Originally posted by EliteSoldier
      Calzaghes 35, and he's still a warrior with almost unlimited amount of stamina constantly throwing punches. And still doesn't get credit on his constant action in fights.
      DUDE you can't be serious, Calzaghe is really 27 based off the fights he has taken and he is the one who should really be criticized.

      I dont think Jones has been exposed at all, tarver caught him with a lucky punch and his confidence never recovered from that. Like the guy said earlier, Johnson didn't get the real Jones. he wasn't ****y n confident but shy in that fight. Johnson never would have beat him, but Tarver on the other hand, would always give him problems because of his size speed and south paw style.

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      • wmute
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        #33
        Originally posted by beez721
        35 isnt very old these days and he wasnt in any wars. lets not make excuses for him. he may have slipped a bit but he wasnt an old shot fighter by any means when tarver iced him. he got tagged by a clean shot and just couldnt take it. even when he was young light hitting del valle dropped him. he didnt take a good shot and when he was finally hit clean he fell hard
        1. lol @ having to dig out that flash knockdown, which happened at light heavy, and the only knockdown jones ever suffered before Tarver 2...

        Jones was a natural middleweight 168 at most. Of course he did not have hagler's chin. so what?

        1a. I guess Hopkins and Toney chin must really suck then... Hopkins knocked down twice by Marcado and Toney knocked down by a junior-middleweight.

        2. 35 is old unless your name is Bernard or Archie.

        3, how is it that Tarver landed a good amount in their first fight and jones never looked hurt?

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          #34
          Originally posted by wmute
          1. lol @ having to dig out that flash knockdown, which happened at light heavy, and the only knockdown jones ever suffered before Tarver 2...

          Jones was a natural middleweight 168 at most. Of course he did not have hagler's chin. so what?

          1a. I guess Hopkins and Toney chin must really suck then... Hopkins knocked down twice by Marcado and Toney knocked down by a junior-middleweight.

          2. 35 is old unless your name is Bernard or Archie.

          3, how is it that Tarver landed a good amount in their first fight and jones never looked hurt?
          have you watched the countdown to tarver jones 3??? man those punches from tarver sound nasty!!(the ones he landed in the first fight)

          and theydidnt hurt roy just put himon the defensive... damn it mi tired of this whole glass chin bs...

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          • potatoes
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            #35
            Originally posted by RayLeonard82
            Do you think if Roy had faced more quality competetion earlier in his career that his chin would have gotten exposed much sooner? If he fought guy's like Nigel Benn ,Joe Calzaghe ,Darius Michalchewski , Glen Johnson ,but a couple of years earlier.

            Roy looked awesome against counterpuncher type fighters that did not take the fight to him. I think the fighters above would bring the fight to him,no matter how much he was in his prime,and give him a lot of problems.

            I know he beat Toney in 1994 ,but Toney's type of style was perfect for Roy because he is more of a counterpuncher who is not very aggressive. If Roy tried that same move he did on Toney on Nigel Benn or Glen Jonnson they would have been all over him before he even tried it.


            Why is it every fighter in the history of boxing gets "exposed" when he gets too old to fight?

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            • EliteSoldier
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              #36
              Roy Jones Jr didn't just get beat by tarver. But to make it more of a loss, Tarver admits he smokes crack... No lie, not sure if Tarver says this to make roy look even worse by losing to a crackhead

              Thats actually a doc, I want. I first saw it on hbo, does anyone have the doc of tarver admitting hes a crackhead? hahaha
              Last edited by EliteSoldier; 04-20-2007, 09:13 PM.

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              • .::|ULTIMATE|::.
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                #37
                Yes he would have, Roy had the problem where he couldnt cope with pressure for a long time.

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                • THE REAL NINJA
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by .::|ULTIMATE|::.
                  Yes he would have, Roy had the problem where he couldnt cope with pressure for a long time.
                  What was that ?

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by EliteSoldier
                    Roy Jones Jr didn't just get beat by tarver. But to make it more of a loss, Tarver admits he smokes crack... No lie, not sure if Tarver says this to make roy look even worse by losing to a crackhead

                    Thats actually a doc, I want. I first saw it on hbo, does anyone have the doc of tarver admitting hes a crackhead? hahaha

                    he was a crack head when he was in highscholl... i have that countdown...and what does that have to do with roy???????why would tarver want to make roy look bad if hes his only notable win?????damn youre lamer than i thought...

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                    • EliteSoldier
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                      #40
                      don't let me get to you man, i love roy. I just like coming at him because I don't like tarver. I think tarver sucks ass and only beat roy because styles make fights and tarver found an opponent that couldn't adjust to his style.

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