Mayweather, Jr. and Dana White Battle Again

[The Fix]

floyd sold out his whole sport, didnt hbo just make a deal to televise ufc events? floyd is under contract to hbo, this is nothing but a marketing ploy. all of a sudden floyd cares about ufc before the biggest fight of his career....just like that? floyd is a ****ing punk, if boxing does get phased out or losses more mainstream support, we can thank people like him. i never rooted for delahoya before throughout his entire career, not once. but as of today, i hope he takes floyds zero.

[pesticid]

Boxing footwork is customized and refined for boxing. Boxing's footwork only takes into account the factors present in boxing. Boxing footwork is NOT universally acceptable in all fighting situations. It must change and adapt to the new factors in play. This is the basic principle of footwork. Boxing footwork DOES NOT factor in a takedown in a boxing match. And according to boxing rules, why should it? By Mayweather standing his ground, that's probably the worst takedown defense he can do.

I think boxing footwork is great in all fighting situations. What other footwork can you apply, turn your back and run? If you look at fighters and their footwork, regardless of the combat craft they are practicing, boxers have by far the best footwork. So yeah boxing footwork may not be universally acceptable according to you, but it's the best damn footwork in all combat sports. Put it this way, boxing is the fastest combat sport, and there are plenty of fighters with an amazing footwork that includes both trmendous speed and ability. You're completely wrong to think that there is a better footwork, forget better, waht other footwork is there that is successful anyway?All MMA fighters use a boxer stance to begin with. Damn, come up with smth better stuff next time or at least examples.

[Naiujiro]

I think boxing footwork is great in all fighting situations. What other footwork can you apply, turn your back and run? If you look at fighters and their footwork, regardless of the combat craft they are practicing, boxers have by far the best footwork. So yeah boxing footwork may not be universally acceptable according to you, but it's the best damn footwork in all combat sports. Put it this way, boxing is the fastest combat sport, and there are plenty of fighters with an amazing footwork that includes both trmendous speed and ability. You're completely wrong to think that there is a better footwork, forget better, waht other footwork is there that is successful anyway?All MMA fighters use a boxer stance to begin with. Damn, come up with smth better stuff next time or at least examples.

Man when do you guys shut the hell up with your ignorance?

By now it should be accepted that boxing footwork is not the best footwork for a takedown. Wrestling footwork (I guess) is the better one to counter shooters. Because it has a low center of gravity, defensive stance, and allows for nearly instant sprawl.

pesticid, get over it. I've been saying this FACT for quite some time, boxing footwork is best for boxing. Setting your footwork up for dancing around your opponent, and setting it up for sprawling are 2 extremely different things. I'm tired of educating ******s every ****in day. pesticid, do yourself a favor and get some education, click on my username, then find all my posts, then read them. Maybe you will learn something useful about the dynamics and factors that come into play when fighting. And hopefully you'll learn to insult me better, unlike your previous attempt alongside your failed predecessors.

Find a hole to crawl into, before I decide to really verbally **** you.

[pesticid]

Man when do you guys shut the hell up with your ignorance?

By now it should be accepted that boxing footwork is not the best footwork for a takedown. Wrestling footwork (I guess) is the better one to counter shooters. Because it has a low center of gravity, defensive stance, and allows for nearly instant sprawl.

pesticid, get over it. I've been saying this FACT for quite some time, boxing footwork is best for boxing. Setting your footwork up for dancing around your opponent, and setting it up for sprawling are 2 extremely different things. I'm tired of educating ******s every ****in day. pesticid, do yourself a favor and get some education, click on my username, then find all my posts, then read them. Maybe you will learn something useful about the dynamics and factors that come into play when fighting. And hopefully you'll learn to insult me better, unlike your previous attempt alongside your failed predecessors.

Find a hole to crawl into, before I decide to really verbally **** you.

Read my original post again you little-boned peasant. Ok, I'll save you some time. I said there is no way that Floyd would be successful against takedowns by using sprawls. Why, cause he needs years of practice and he might still not have the talent and strength for it. Floyd would be better suited by using his superior footwork meaning step back once or twice and to the side. Now, if you miss a shoot cause you can't grab the guy's feet, you have to shoot again, it;s not like if you miss a punch you can still come forward throwing punches. You're talking about wrestling footwork? In wrestling you step back and then you use your arms and upper body to stop the shoot, this shouldn't even be considered footwork. I'll agree with you that if you've mastered sprawls this is your best take-down defense, there is no doubt. But for a boxer to do that without any prior mma experience will be foolish, he'll get taken down quickly. For the record, I've never said anywhere that a boxer will win in mma and that an mma guy will win in boxing but for a boxer to have a great chance he needs to have great footwork to try avoid the takedowns. The cage is also bigger than the ring, so that can only help.

[James78]

"little-boned peasant" hahahahaha

[Naiujiro]

Read my original post again you little-boned peasant.

I'm hoping you can do better then that..... well maybe you can't.

Ok, I'll save you some time. I said there is no way that Floyd would be successful against takedowns by using sprawls. Why, cause he needs years of practice and he might still not have the talent and strength for it. Floyd would be better suited by using his superior footwork meaning step back once or twice and to the side. Now, if you miss a shoot cause you can't grab the guy's feet, you have to shoot again, it;s not like if you miss a punch you can still come forward throwing punches. You're talking about wrestling footwork? In wrestling you step back and then you use your arms and upper body to stop the shoot, this shouldn't even be considered footwork. I'll agree with you that if you've mastered sprawls this is your best take-down defense, there is no doubt. But for a boxer to do that without any prior mma experience will be foolish, he'll get taken down quickly.

Again, utilize the ****in search function on your screen. I know you have it. We have ****in 20+ pages covering this issue extensively. I'm not in the mood for parroting all this **** again. READ *****, and use common sense!

For the record, I've never said anywhere that a boxer will win in mma and that an mma guy will win in boxing but for a boxer to have a great chance he needs to have great footwork to try avoid the takedowns.

Yeah I know you never said that, but I never implied you did. It's just that if a boxer is thinking his typical boxing footwork will save him, he's sadly mistaken, unless he's going against a can that can't shoot. Once any decent Shooter smells the scent of a boxer's footwork, he'll shoot in at the first opportunity and successful ground the boxer. Remember it's not bull fighting, you can't sidestep at the last minute and expect the shooter to skid past you unsuccessfully. This is MMA we're talking here. Single leg takedowns DO EXIST. And one leg of the boxer, will be more then enough to drop him to the canvas. Period, end of story. Don't talk to me until you read this entire topic.

[Naiujiro]

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That is exactly what would happen 10 seconds into a match relying off of boxing footwork.

[pesticid]

That is exactly what would happen 10 seconds into a match relying off of boxing footwork.

You're an idiot by showing me this clip, this is Kenny Florian for Christ Sake. You probably have more talent and strength than he has, and his footwork is worse than a 3 legged dog. I've read what you've said about footwork and you seem to be ignorant about it. Look at Liddell for example, he's good at sprawling yes, but he seldomly uses them because instead he gets his opponents off balance with his footwork, then he hits them and it's lights out. That's why people are so hesitant to shoot at him cause he's got great boxing footwork (for mma standards) and great power. Cause when he decides to sprawl, his opponent are no longer in the same danger zone.
Stop throwing insults all the time. I mean are you in your period or is your **** so small you have to use a stall when you piss. God damn, you're one annoying ****.

[potatoes]

You're an idiot by showing me this clip, this is Kenny Florian for Christ Sake. You probably have more talent and strength than he has, and his footwork is worse than a 3 legged dog. I've read what you've said about footwork and you seem to be ignorant about it. Look at Liddell for example, he's good at sprawling yes, but he seldomly uses them because instead he gets his opponents off balance with his footwork, then he hits them and it's lights out. That's why people are so hesitant to shoot at him cause he's got great boxing footwork (for mma standards) and great power. Cause when he decides to sprawl, his opponent are no longer in the same danger zone.
Stop throwing insults all the time. I mean are you in your period or is your **** so small you have to use a stall when you piss. God damn, you're one annoying ****.

Don't be so harsh with your criticism. The ufc/mma fans all have poor eyesight due to a drinking problem! Consequently they can't see what goes on in the ring.

[DA1CATAS]

How the hell would Mayweather stop this from happening to him?
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Florian actually knows what take down defense is and he still got thrown around like a rag doll. You think that because Mayweather is a great boxer, he'll KO Sherk with a knee-high uppercut or something? Please.

Umm Well the reason I'm still a skeptic about MMA dudes trying this with skilled boxers is because... In my fight with an MMA (his rules...also You can read about it on the other page..20-or-21) I had a headgear on but he couldn't even hit my head in the first place with a clean punch. ANYWAY I caught him with a rabbit punch on his way in and then followed it with a punch that I intended for his head but cracked his temple... He was knocked Out instantly...the way he was going into the floor didnt help either.

And I will add that I was wearing Boxing Gloves and not those raw ass doctors gloves with no ****in padding like the MMA guys do. I woulda killed him If I was I think personally.


Anyway I train hard. Mayweather and other professionals probaly trainer harder than I do. I can't see how i could knock one of your dudes out and One of them like tyson or Floyd . or edison miranda couldn't.

MMA guys DESERVE alot of respect. Very dangerous sport.

But boxing is also dangerous.. and If they fight a MMa they have a punchers Chance.

The Punchers chance was in my favor from the beggining.. and all boxers are punchers.. end of story for me. Try to convince another boxer wit dat ****. 1