Mayweather, Jr. and Dana White Battle Again

[Technical_Skill]

I'll take that to mean you talk alot of **** and rarely, if ever, actually train.

Take another Reading Comp class, you need it. In case you did not notice, I did not start this thread in the Boxing forum. I just replied to it.

Alright then, ill take reading comp,

hopefully someone will knock you out in training soon.

lmao

later.

[Technical_Skill]

Alright then, ill take reading comp,

hopefully someone will knock you out in training soon.

lmao

later.

Seriously, hope nothing bad happens to you in training, no one deserves that, trash talk is just that, trash talk, nothing personal.

[1bad65]

Its all good and may well happen. I'm actually going in tonight just to spar some newer guys who are training for their first amateur fights. I've never sparred these particular guys yet, and they are young, so they will probably come at me hard.

And I've never been KO'd yet, but I have had the lights flash a few times.

[deuce_drop]

different fight games different fight plans, different rules. when one crosses over to fighting in the others sport there are flaws in both of their games. now, that being said, if a MMA guy was to box and by boxing rules he'd have a hard time and more than likely be out classed, not always but more than likely, and if a boxer were to fight an MMA fighter with MMA rules it would be a different story for the boxer, the boxer would most likely lose. IT'S A FIGHT YOU GUYS YOU CAN'T SAY WHAT WILL BE THE OUTCOME WITHOUT THE FIGHT ACTUALLY HAPPENING, ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN EITHER WAY.

all i know is that a world class boxer has guys come on the inside all the time, they get pinned up agains the ropes, they get in clinches, etc, and that is where a MMA guy excels, it's not a trench war like inside boxing, it's thai clinches and knees, foot stomping, shin kicking, dirty boxing i.e. holding and hitting (both guys can use dirty boxing) but it's joint locks, and throws, take downs. unless a boxer is thoroughly thoroughly trainned in wrestling, ground fighting, judo, jujistu, sambo, and had his fight game opened up to see and anticipate all the other methods and tachniques of fighting he would be in serious trouble,

if you were to put a fight together style verses style boxing verses MMA in a flat out fight, the boxer is seriously limited. the MMA guy has more in his arsenal.

if you are going up against a guy that is a good striker, you take him down to the ground and work on him there, and if a guy is good on the ground you try and stay up and strike.

and as for conditioning, both guys, boxers and MMA guy are superb athletes with superb training.

you say 12 rounds of fighting verses 5 minute rounds, a boxer get used to taking a break every 3 minutes, MMA guys are used to fighting for longer during a round, it's tough to say, but i know from wrestling that it takes a lot more out of your whole entire body than boxing, boxing wears your arms down then the rest of your stamina starts to fade, wrestling, judo, etc, after being on the ground fighting everything gets worked, arms, legs, gut, all your stamina used up.
i don't think that it's fair to say which is better and more grueling because both are taxing to the fullest.

but when i comes to fighting period not just boxing the MMA guy has more depth in his arsenal and more technique, that's why its Mixed Martial Arts not just stand up boxing............................

with all you guys arguing about this, you would think that you are fussing about religion and ********.

seriously, in order to find out they have to make a fight both ways with the same fighters, one fight they go by boxing rules and the other fight they go by MMA rules, then if it one and one we'll both know that whoever is fighting in his element is going to win, so there would be no reason for a third fight unless one wants another crack at the others sport!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Technical_Skill]

Its all good and may well happen. I'm actually going in tonight just to spar some newer guys who are training for their first amateur fights. I've never sparred these particular guys yet, and they are young, so they will probably come at me hard.

And I've never been KO'd yet, but I have had the lights flash a few times.

good, cos i can be nasty, but i couldnt forgive myself if i said something like that and then it happened.

We can both agree UFC got some skilled Fighters, The Gracies are legends, Royce Gracie won the vale Tourno in Japan at his 1st attempt, then retained it, in his 2nd final he fought guy who had a ****ed face from the punches he took to get to the final, Royce refused to punch him as it would give him an unfair advantage (he thought) so he beat the guy with pure holds instead.

Thats character.

[1bad65]

Not to be an ass, but I think the Vale Tudo fights in Japan you refer to were Rickson's fights, not Royce's. Yuki Nakai actually suffered permanent eye damage in an earlier fight vs Gerard Gordeau. Rickson and Nakai met in the finals and Rickson won by choke. Nakai actually took up BJJ after the fight and earned a black belt in BJJ.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuki_Nakai

[Technical_Skill]

Not to be an ass, but I think the Vale Tudo fights in Japan you refer to were Rickson's fights, not Royce's. Yuki Nakai actually suffered permanent eye damage in an earlier fight vs Gerard Gordeau. Rickson and Nakai met in the finals and Rickson won by choke. Nakai actually took up BJJ after the fight and earned a black belt in BJJ.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuki_Nakai

Yup, your probably right, i get easliy confused. lol

Yup, that was the fight in the Vale Tudo.

There was a program about it, but then some guy came along and started beating the gracies, he was a vicious bastard, trying to stamp on thier necks, lol.

[deuce_drop]

Not to be an ass, but I think the Vale Tudo fights in Japan you refer to were Rickson's fights, not Royce's. Yuki Nakai actually suffered permanent eye damage in an earlier fight vs Gerard Gordeau. Rickson and Nakai met in the finals and Rickson won by choke. Nakai actually took up BJJ after the fight and earned a black belt in BJJ.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuki_Nakai

i don't know for sure but i thought that Vale Tudo was only in brazil????? i wouldn't be surprised if it was held other places but i always was under the impression that it was a brazil thing???

[EolGul]

How the hell would Mayweather stop this from happening to him?
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Florian actually knows what take down defense is and he still got thrown around like a rag doll. You think that because Mayweather is a great boxer, he'll KO Sherk with a knee-high uppercut or something? Please.

[Dorian]

There shouldn't be a war between MMA and Boxing.... they are 2 completely different sports......
this is going 2 far