Was Valuev Robbed?

[yrrej]

Agreed, a close fight.......

[titoi]

robbed? you're kidding. he got mugged.

Valuev won rounds 8, 10 and 11. Nothing else. I really can't see why people thought it was such a close fight.

I also think he was about ready to go down in the last 90 sec.s of the fight.

[squealpiggy]

yes squealpiggy I agree that having 7 close rounds could lead to large variances in scoring. But to me I didn't see 7 close rounds. I saw maybe 5, 2 I gave to valuev and 3 to chagaev. The rest were clearly Valuev's. Even 5 close rounds were stretching it. I thought it was very easy to score, I was never thinking too much after a round about who to give it to.

Wasn't Chagaev the one in trouble by the end of the fight? To me it seemed just that Chagaev was out of his league. Not in talent sense, but he was just fighting someone way too big.

5 close rounds is five points, 117-111 is only six points different, so my point still stands.

[kayjay]

Soprano, this fight was very easy to score and 117-111 is correct. Valuev might have fooled a few people with two or three hundred pawing jabs that did not land, but if you watch for clean punching you'll see that seven rounds go very clearly Chagaev. A draw is an impossible score, anywhere between 115-113 and 119-109 is believable but 117-111 is correct. It wasn't hard at all.

[kayjay]

Valuev won rounds 8, 10 and 11. Nothing else. I really can't see why people thought it was such a close fight.

I also think he was about ready to go down in the last 90 sec.s of the fight.

At several points in the fight Chagaev could have rushe Valuev and maybe gotten him out, but he obviously had a huge points lead (except not according to two judges, apparently) and so remained conservative.

[Leo Pradun]

Robbed or not robbed heavyweight fights should not end in desicions like that. Chagaev won this fight I had at 115-113, but Valuev did good in a few of those last rounds and a draw would have also been a pretty fair result, that being said I dont think Ruslan will hang around for long..

[kayjay]

I cant stand you!! This was a good heavyweight fight. Like baserocks said Valuev is verry difficult to fight but Chagaev did verry well, better than anyone else before. He had a good gameplan and hes stuck to it the whole fight, Chagaev and his trainer studied Valuev well and had the perfect gameplan to beat the giant. Chagaev made Valuev miss and ducked under most of Valuevs punches and i dont think Chagaev was slo, his hands were pretty fast IMO. he also has improved his footwork. Chagaev normally is a agressive fighter comming forward but in this fight he did everything well and stuck to the gameplan!
I rank Chagaev the 3rd best heavyweight right now, Nr.1 Wladimir and Nr.2 Peter

I agree, Chagaev is the best boxer (maybe after Wlad?) of any legit heavyweight right now, although I'll still put Peter ahead of him.

[Terry A]

Here is what Valuev said himself (quoted from *********.com)
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"I did not throw enough punches and also had trouble finding my feet. I am respectful of my opponent and have to admit that the decision was okay. The better fighter won....There is no reason for me to put myself into a coffin. I will keep boxing and will be good enough to move back up the rankings in the WBA and get a new title shot soon. I hope Ruslan will stay champion long enough for me to get a second chance. I would be happy to box him again."

Seems & sounds like a class guy. Good luck to him in the future.

[squealpiggy]

I had it 116-113 to Chagaev, 7 rounds to 4 with 1 even. Valuev was the aggressor but was ineffective and Chagaev's counters were clean and frequent.

[Steelhammer86]

This was a good heavyweight fight. Like baserocks said Valuev is verry difficult to fight but Chagaev did verry well, better than anyone else before. He had a good gameplan and hes stuck to it the whole fight, Chagaev and his trainer studied Valuev well and had the perfect gameplan to beat the giant. Chagaev made Valuev miss and ducked under most of Valuevs punches and i dont think Chagaev was slo, his hands were pretty fast IMO. he also has improved his footwork. Chagaev normally is a agressive fighter comming forward but in this fight he did everything well and stuck to the gameplan!
I rank Chagaev the 3rd best heavyweight right now, Nr.1 Wladimir and Nr.2 Peter

I agree, it was a good fight. To fully appreciate it one had to understand what Chagaev was doing - he had a gameplan, and fought amazingly well against an opponent with greatly superior reach, 11'' taller and 90 pounds heavier!

The fight was very tactical, like a game of chess. Valuev is slow, but he has some boxing skills. Chagaev showed his great attacking speed in moving in to catch Valuev's jaw when he had the opportunity. You're right, the top three heavyweights are 1) Wlad 2) Peter and 3) Chagaev, and I think Chagaev's win is good for the heavyweight division.