Miranda vs Abraham: what really happened?

[CottoOverrated1]

I seen the fight on youtube. Miranda should have walked out with the gold. How the hell do you have 5 points taken away from you? I seen only 2 legitimate points that should have been deducted. Plus, the fight should have been stopped in the 5th. I'm sorry if it takes you 10 minutes(a bit more than 3 rounds) for you and your corner to figure out if you should continue then you shouldnt have been able to continue. feel me?

[CottoOverrated1]

Plus when scoring the fight all abraham did was hide behind his hands and then try to flurry occasionally. Miranda was in his grill the whole time being the aggressor. The judges scored it horribly even with the deductions.

[EliteSoldier]

Miranda threw low blows alot during that fight and head butts. Miranda lost because he choose to lose.

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miranda also chose to break his jaw and make him take a ridiculous 10 min break during a fight which should never be allowed.......miranda by ko next time they meet......

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Abraham quit.

If it wasn't for Sauderland yelling at the ref to let the fight continue....it would have been a TKO win. He clearly shook his head "no" at the end of the fifth round when the ref asked him if he wanted to continue.



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[EliteSoldier]

Abraham quit.

Obviously he didn't quit since he was still fighting. No one could force him to keep fighting, not every fan in germany. He choose to fight. Like Miranda choose to throw low blows, head-butts.

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Obviously he didn't quit since he was still fighting. No one could force him to keep fighting, not every fan in germany. He choose to fight. Like Miranda choose to throw low blows, head-butts.

Obviously Sauderland twisted the ref's arm to allow the fight to continue.

Proof lies in the video, and this subject has been beaten to death a million times and the video itself has been posted a million times by Pantera2000.

Abraham clearly shakes his head "no" and mutters when the ref asked him if he would like to continue to fight. The ref as well as Abraham stop and look at Sauderland who is screaming in the first row waiving his hands in a "go on" fashion.

As stated, this has been beat to death a millionfold.

And no.....Abraham didn't chose to fight. He was doing what his promoter said to do hence him looking at him for approval.



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Oh and if by "fight" you mean "backpeddal and run away for 10 rounds taking flush shots on the jaw with no intention of throwing back" then Ok I can see what you mean by "fight"



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[EliteSoldier]

And no.....Abraham didn't chose to fight. He was doing what his promoter said to do hence him looking at him for approval.

It doesn't matter if he shook his head no, the fight didn't get stopped. And he won, because Miranda felt the need to fight dirty. I don't care if you post a million videos showing him shaking his head no, he doesn't want to fight anymore. The point is he did, and he won.

[CottoOverrated1]

Obviously he didn't quit since he was still fighting. No one could force him to keep fighting, not every fan in germany. He choose to fight. Like Miranda choose to throw low blows, head-butts.

this fight does tend to pit the eastern hemisphere against the western hemisphere.


eventhough he went back to fight. Abe should have still ben TKOed. 10 minutes?!!!! they stuffed a whole towel rack in his mouth to help stop the bleeding. they acted like this was fan man part 2.

BTW will the Miranda Pavlik fight be 10 or 12 rounds?

if miranda pulls out a W and if Jermain Taylor fights Miranda, and mirands pulls of the upset against JT. We could have a rematch between abe and edison which would alos be a unification fight.