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it could be argued that taylor should be a supermiddle or a lightheavy.He's fighting top guys from 154, don't make it sound like he's figing guys from 126, it's not much of a big difference between 154 and 160. Julian Jackson is considered one of the biggest punchers in the middleweight history, guess what he fought most of his career at 154.
He will fight guys like Miranda and Pavlik soon, I rather see Taylor fighting some top 154 pounders then what Hopkins did fighting many C level middleweights most of his career. Lets not forget Hokpkins 2 biggest wins came against guys who started their careers at 135 and 140. Hopkins became a superstar after fighting little guys and Taylor is getting bashed for fighting the top guys from 154.
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It's only a matter of time before Taylor is forced to fight a man his on size. Then he'll have to rely on his boxing skills. Every flaw he has shown us will be exposed and we'll see what he really has in him. Right now, I agree, he is fighting little men to pad his record. It got old two, three fights ago for me.Comment
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I agree that I dont think taylor is anything amazing.. but I guess he has done just enough.. But as for winky and b-hop.. 2 of the 3 coulda went either way. He never really dominated.. so no he dont stand out.. but he has gotten the job done apparently.. But as if in best middles in history.. he aint in there no.Comment
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Spinks is not all that. Sorry. He's good but he has mental weakness and his stamina falters. I could see Manfredo beating him. Spinks is small compared to Peter, and Peter has improved a lot since Contender.
Anyway. The reason we don't see the truth about Taylor, Cletus, is because we are just unelightened fools who cannot have access to the same wealth of knowledge that you can. Thankfully, God left that to higher, more discerning men such as yourself.Comment
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Taylor is the champ, and deservingly so.
Enough of the whining.Comment
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Wow, the Taylor hate here is off the charts.
First of all, sit back and listen to the news. He beat Hopkins TWICE. The first fight was razor close, but I thought he won 7-5, and he eliminated all doubt by winning the 2nd fight 7-5, incredibly easy to score too. The moral of both of those fights is Taylor won because of how agressive he was winging those big right hands. Hopkins didn't want to get hit with them, thought Taylor would tire, and he did, just Hopkins miscalculated when to turn it on in the first fight, and couldn't in the second fight because of the adjustments Taylor made stepping back with that little hook and jab. I mean, he fought maybe the toughest fighter to beat in the sport, because of that boring, cagy defensive style that Hopkins has evolved, back-to-back. And because he dominated Ouma like he should have, then he's overrated and hasn't fought anybody? Insanity. If there's anybody who has evolved that defensive style that tough to look good against better than Hopkins, it's Wright. And Taylor fought him to a draw in a very close fight that could have gone either way.
I didn't like Ouma as an opponent, but hey, after Hopkins-Hopkins-Wright, does the guy deserve a showcase defense or what? He dominated Ouma, as advertised. He's going to beat Spinks (and yes, I don't like this matchup either, Spinks lost to Judah, then I thought he lost to Karmazin and got a bit of a gift) and I think the Spinks fight is mainly because Hopkins, Wright, Miranda and Calzaghe are all scheduled.
He does need to step it up after he beats Spinks and make a big fight. But he does not deserve the ripping he gets from the morons on this site, that's for certain!
****, the same people ripping Taylor would go into convulsions if you criticized Mayweather's pathetic level of competition (at least for a self-proclaimed p4p all-time great) of Gatti, then Mitchell and Judah coming off losses. While Taylor is taking on Hopkins, Hopkins and Wright during that time. LOL Genius! Gotta love the double-standards!
Anyone wanting to criticize Taylor in this thread better have gone on the record tearing Mayweather a new one, nuff said!
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Hopkins completely dominated and embarassed Trinidad and Tarver. Although he didn't embarass De La Hoya quite as much, it was still a very emphatic KO victory. When Hopkins fought Taylor, he lost twice in a row. Given the rules of the 10 point system, BOTH of the fights were losses. There were definately 7 Jermain Taylor rounds in the first fight, I don't care what anyone says. Maybe the fight exposed the flaws of the 10 point system a bit, but still, under that system, Taylor was the definate winner, over one of the greatest middleweights ever in his prime, while taking a huge step up. The second fight he won a bit more clearly in another close battle.
His fight with Winky Wright was an extremely exciting fight, and there was nothing wrong with a draw as the verdict. Look at how great fighters like Shane Mosely and Felix Trinidad did against that version of Wright, and compare that to how Taylor did. It says a lot about Taylor. He also won almost every round against Kassim Ouma, and excellent fighter.
Winky Wright and Ouma were both very solid junior middles who were at that weight for a long time. It was not that big a deal for them to move up a weight class. Those fights happened because they were the biggest fights available. The only other big fights at middleweight were Abraham and Miranda, who were fighting each other and had not yet established themselves as stars. Taylor will probably fight Edison Miranda after Spinks, which I would predict him to win.
Cory Spinks is a very solid challenger as well. He was the linear world champion at 147, an excellent boxer. Yeah, he is small for a middleweight, but he is still a world class boxer. Someone has said that Spinks is an easier challenge to Taylor than Manfredo is to Calzaghe. Give me a ****ing break. Spinks is a world class fighter, Manfredo came second in a reality TV show and his claim to fame is losing close decisions to Sergio Mora.Comment
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taylor is a huge huge fraud.Comment
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