Calzaghe vs Kessler - July 2007

[squealpiggy]

Step one, if he ever wants any respect in the boxing world. Step two is winning a title in a higher weight class to set himself apart from the rest of the good boxers.

I thought that step one was winning a regional title, step two winning a world title and step three would be unifying. Just goes to show there's too many alphabelts.

If he'd quit whining about retirement at only 34 years old maybe he'd accomplish these things. He could learn a few things from Hopkins' example.

He already has. 20 defenses against midgets and no-marks. Next he's going to lose in two mediocre fights to the first decent fighter that's close to his size and then go up two divisions as soon as he sees a fighter he thinks he can beat.

It seems euro fighters only care about being local town heroes

Nont one of the top American fighters in the last ten years has ever set foot in a ring off US soil. What's your point again?

After watching the british sailors grovel on their knees before the entire world at the feet of the Iranians, now I understand Calzone a little better.

At least we know you're a xenophobe as well as a moron.

Don't forget which country kicked you out of the Western world, rescued you in WW1 and WW2, and protected you throughout the Cold War.

Don't forget which country burned your capital in 1812. And how exactly did the US "rescue" anyone in the First World War? It's hard to rescue people by staying home and plunging your entire economy into depression. World War II was a tough situation, and without the Lend-Lease programme the Allies would have sunk. I'm not going to gloss over the US contribution to the war effort, because it was essential. But the way you jibber on about it you would think that noone was doing anything until the Americans put on their stetsons and moseyed on down to Midway and Normandy. You seem to forget the immense sacrifice made by the commies who you also apparently protected us from.

As for the British death toll, you have a very limited knowledge of history. It's not a pissing contest. And the Spaniards are probably still winning anyway.

[The Final Word]

Don't forget which country burned your capital in 1812. And how exactly did the US "rescue" anyone in the First World War? It's hard to rescue people by staying home and plunging your entire economy into depression. World War II was a tough situation, and without the Lend-Lease programme the Allies would have sunk. I'm not going to gloss over the US contribution to the war effort, because it was essential. But the way you jibber on about it you would think that noone was doing anything until the Americans put on their stetsons and moseyed on down to Midway and Normandy. You seem to forget the immense sacrifice made by the commies who you also apparently protected us from.

As for the British death toll, you have a very limited knowledge of history. It's not a pissing contest. And the Spaniards are probably still winning anyway.

Ah, the war of 1812. We were in process of annexing that piss ant frozen pond up north we call Canada when the british, nosy little bastards that they are, just had to interfere. Well, while the red tarts did manage to somehow stumble their way onto our White House lawn, don't forget that in the end the 20 year old American Navy embarassed the British's supposed world's greatest navy on the open seas and the Great Lakes, forcing them to sue for a truce. And that, boys and girls, was the beginning of the end of for Britain as a world power. She basically became our ***** from then on to present day.

Meanwhile, the US was never attacked on its own soil again until 1941 by Japan, and today America has the greatest military, economic, and political power in the world. Well, no wonder people are jealous. It's tough being #1.

Hey, how about those sailors? I see you didn't make any excuses for them. Well then again, the Iranians did defeat the British and kick them out of the middle east.

[Undefeated]

Hopefully this fight happens.. I really want to see it. Should be a good fight. Probaly FOTY. Both have interesting styles.

[PunchDrunk]

More likely and accurately, if they can't make Calzaghe-Taylor, Calzaghe-Hopkins or Calzaghe-Wright they will look within his division for a recognisable opponent.

Neither Kessler or Froch are particularly "proven", and I would happily argue that it's a step up for Kessler even despite his less **** list of opponents when compared to Froch. It's a fight that makes sense the more I think about it, and would certainly massively improve the marketability of Kessler on Calzaghe's own doorstep. Should he win of course, which by no means is a certainty.

For anyone who states that Kessler shouldn't fight Froch on grounds of bringing no money, not being a mandatory and him not beating anyone of note should pick their words very carefully when criticising Calzaghe for not fighting Kessler. Also, if it's good enough for Calzaghe to fight some american no-mark just to push for a big fight against a big american name, it's certainly good enough for Kessler to fight some British "no mark" just to push for a big fight against the biggest British name.

That's ludicrous.
1.Kessler brings two belts to Calzaghe. Froch brings nothing, he's not even be a mandatory.
2. It's NOT okay for Calzaghe to fight an American no-mark. That's the whole point!
3. Even if it was okay, Manfredo's much more marketable for American pay-per-view, which is where the money is at, than Froch. This means Calzaghe gets a fair amount of money, and American exposure, which he hopes will lure Hopkins into fighting him. Kessler beating Froch (if he does) will do nothing for him in the US, and will certainly send Calzaghe running even faster.

[GEOFFHAYES]

Hopefully this fight happens.. I really want to see it. Should be a good fight. Probaly FOTY. Both have interesting styles.

Cool......

[adietheforestfa]

Aw, looks like I touched a raw nerve. Brits are so sensitive. Well, this morning we saw a display of classic european courage when the captive Brit sailors, after weeks of braying like sheep for Iranian propaganda, were finally set free. So much for the people of Churchill. It seems the British and French are not so dissimilar after all.

Oh sure, Vietnam. You know, the same country the Japanese conquered in WW2, which we then conquered. Don't forget which country kicked you out of the Western world, rescued you in WW1 and WW2, and protected you throughout the Cold War.

Of course, Britain is our obedient little lap dog in Iraq right now. Just continue doing what you're told and we'll toss you a bone every now and then.

Yep you sure are a steroitypical american. What a great post. As far as our forces are concerened you cant argue that we are P4P world best undistputed.

You have not yet responded to the question about why big gloves are required to catch a semi hard ball in baseball??? it appears to be girly in the extreme.

[squealpiggy]

Or why, when you play rugby, you have to wear hard hats and shoulder pads? Or how Lady's netball became a men's sport? Or why your soccer league is non-contact unlike the rest of the world?

I've nothing against Americans, I just don't like xenophobes.

Re the British sailors, I think any time it's looking like there's going to be a kidnapping we should open fire on the Iranians, or send out a team of special forces and kidnap those guys. I would hope I would never be in a situation in which I was a "guest" of Iran personally. I'm frankly disgusted by your attitude towards captured military personnel, and I wonder how many US soldiers or sailors would be entirely happy about your dismissal of our sailors because of this situation.

[adietheforestfa]

Or why, when you play rugby, you have to wear hard hats and shoulder pads?

Iv asked that question many times on here but have yet to recieve a reply form anyone. what a surprise!!!!!

[SHB]

That's ludicrous.
1.Kessler brings two belts to Calzaghe. Froch brings nothing, he's not even be a mandatory.
2. It's NOT okay for Calzaghe to fight an American no-mark. That's the whole point!
3. Even if it was okay, Manfredo's much more marketable for American pay-per-view, which is where the money is at, than Froch. This means Calzaghe gets a fair amount of money, and American exposure, which he hopes will lure Hopkins into fighting him. Kessler beating Froch (if he does) will do nothing for him in the US, and will certainly send Calzaghe running even faster.

Who's talking about America? It's a big ****ing world out there, although you septics wouldn't credit it. If Kessler wants to get to Calzaghe, I can't think of a better opponent than Froch. There easily a big enough European market for Calzaghe-Kessler so, quite frankly, the american money could get to **** from that point of view.

As for Froch not being a mandatory, isn't he now #1 contender for the WBC given Andrade's defeat and Bute's targeting of the IBF?

[squealpiggy]

Iv asked that question many times on here but have yet to recieve a reply form anyone. what a surprise!!!!!

Don't get me wrong, I love American football and once you understand the game a little better it makes great sense. Far to much fannying about but it's a good one to watch with your mates because the commercial breaks don't matter as much.

But it's interesting when Americans espouse manliness yet don't really live it.