Calzaghe vs Kessler - July 2007

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  • The Final Word
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    #11
    Still waiting for Calzone to unify his division. Step one, if he ever wants any respect in the boxing world. Step two is winning a title in a higher weight class to set himself apart from the rest of the good boxers.

    If he'd quit whining about retirement at only 34 years old maybe he'd accomplish these things. He could learn a few things from Hopkins' example.

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    • SHB
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      #12
      Originally posted by Peder
      If they can't make Kessler-Calzaghe, they are most likely to look in the other divisions for a recognizable opponent.
      More likely and accurately, if they can't make Calzaghe-Taylor, Calzaghe-Hopkins or Calzaghe-Wright they will look within his division for a recognisable opponent.

      Neither Kessler or Froch are particularly "proven", and I would happily argue that it's a step up for Kessler even despite his less **** list of opponents when compared to Froch. It's a fight that makes sense the more I think about it, and would certainly massively improve the marketability of Kessler on Calzaghe's own doorstep. Should he win of course, which by no means is a certainty.

      For anyone who states that Kessler shouldn't fight Froch on grounds of bringing no money, not being a mandatory and him not beating anyone of note should pick their words very carefully when criticising Calzaghe for not fighting Kessler. Also, if it's good enough for Calzaghe to fight some american no-mark just to push for a big fight against a big american name, it's certainly good enough for Kessler to fight some British "no mark" just to push for a big fight against the biggest British name.

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      • Peder
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        #13
        Originally posted by SHB
        Neither Kessler or Froch are particularly "proven", and I would happily argue that it's a step up for Kessler even despite his less **** list of opponents when compared to Froch. It's a fight that makes sense the more I think about it, and would certainly massively improve the marketability of Kessler on Calzaghe's own doorstep. Should he win of course, which by no means is a certainty.
        Please do..
        A win would make Kessler more popular in the UK. Perhaps. But would Calzaghe trying to unify against Kessler demand more UK exposure? No, Calzaghe could fight any bum, and it would still go down as a big event.

        A win over Froch wouldn't mean anything to people who dosen't know him.. He would mean less than any of Kessler's last opponents. Even if he is thatr much better than his record.

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        • The Final Word
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          #14
          It seems euro fighters only care about being local town heroes, not about actually proving to the world they are the best by unifying their division and owning all the world titles. Maybe it's a cultural thing and they are just underacheivers.

          Come on Kessler, Froch, Calzone...what do we have to do, lock you girls in a room and find out who's the real man among you?

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            #15
            Originally posted by The Final Word
            It seems euro fighters only care about being local town heroes, not about actually proving to the world they are the best by unifying their division and owning all the world titles. Maybe it's a cultural thing and they are just underacheivers.

            Come on Kessler, Froch, Calzone...what do we have to do, lock you girls in a room and find out who's the real man among you?

            I think its do with the fact that your fighters aren`t as important as you think they are..and that the days of American champions is fast becoming a thing of the past...and you are pissing your pants about it.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Peder
              Please do..
              A win would make Kessler more popular in the UK. Perhaps. But would Calzaghe trying to unify against Kessler demand more UK exposure? No, Calzaghe could fight any bum, and it would still go down as a big event.

              A win over Froch wouldn't mean anything to people who dosen't know him.. He would mean less than any of Kessler's last opponents. Even if he is thatr much better than his record.
              Froch would easily beat Andrade. And Beyer. And Mundane. And that chap who's so good his next fight is as an eliminator for the IBO SMW title. Mind you, Kessler could also fight any bum in Copenhagen and it'd go down as a big event.

              A win over Froch would mean a ****load. If you don't think that Kessler beating Froch would make a Calzaghe-Kessler fight more marketable in probably its biggest market then you're either ignorant or naive.

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                #17
                Originally posted by SHB
                Froch would easily beat Andrade. And Beyer and Mundane. And that chap who's so good his next fight is as an eliminator for the IBO SMW title. Mind you, Kessler could also fight any bum in Copenhagen and it'd go down as a big event.
                But he hasn't done it yet, far from! If you are so sure without any prove, then who is naive?

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                • GEOFFHAYES
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                  #18
                  If Froch beats Inkin he's both WBO #1 and WBC #1, like Henry Wharton was in 1993. Kessler would be officially ducking Froch if he gave up the WBC title instead of fighting him, like Benn could have done with Wharton and gone in with Nunn instead for more money (Benn just didn't want to duck). If Hennessy won the purse bids for Kessler-Froch, it would be at Notts Forest's ground in front of 10,000 possibly even 15,000 or more Froch/Forest fans with the promoting around the town Hennessy would be doing. It'd be on HBO and Sky Sports. It'd be big. It'd be good. And the winner would fight Calzaghe.

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                    #19
                    Or if Kessler's people won the purse bids, it'd be in front of 18,000+ in Copenhagen - where Froch won the gold medal and 'best boxer' at the Multi Nations in 2001 as captain of the England squad.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by me2007
                      I think its do with the fact that your fighters aren`t as important as you think they are..and that the days of American champions is fast becoming a thing of the past...and you are pissing your pants about it.
                      Unlike europeans who are apparently plagued by chronic inferiority syndrome, I could care less where the fighter is from. I only care that if a fighter claims to be a great world champion, he has to actually accomplish great feats to earn that right. A good place to start is unifying your division and defending it from all the world's top contenders for years, becoming champion of higher weight classes, and defeating the greatest fighters of your era.

                      Kessler, Froch, and Calzone belong in ballet, not boxing. All they do is dance around each other.

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