Why do people think shavers hit so much harder than tyson?.

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  • Kid Achilles
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    #121
    This thread isn't worth the time we've invested in it. We almost universally recognize Shavers as a harder puncher than Tyson and we have many reasons for doing this. The diminished effect his punches had on opponents once he lost his defensive style that enabled him to throw sneaky, lightning fast counter-punches (granted he still hit hard after that point, but nothing like Shavers), the testimony of his opponents who usually had guys like Ruddock and Morrison hitting harder, and finally the fact that if he truly hit as hard as Shavers, while having the skills and quickness he possessed, he would have been actually killing guys.

    At the end of the day, the consensus of opinion of boxing historians who devote their lives to the study of this sport holds Shavers in higher regards than Tyson in the field of power punching and I'll take their opinion over any argument anyone here has proposed on this thread so far.
    Last edited by Kid Achilles; 04-02-2007, 02:58 PM.

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    • BrooklynBomber
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      #122
      Originally posted by Kid Achilles
      This thread isn't worth the time we've invested in it. We almost universally recognize Shavers as a harder puncher than Tyson and we have many reasons for doing this. The diminished effect his punches had on opponents once he lost his defensive style that enabled him to throw sneaky, lightning fast counter-punches (granted he still hit hard after that point, but nothing like Shavers), the testimony of his opponents who usually had guys like Ruddock and Morrison hitting harder, and finally the fact that if he truly hit as hard as Shavers, while having the skills and quickness he possessed, he would have been actually killing guys.

      At the end of the day, the consensus of opinion of boxing historians who devote their lives to the study of this sport holds Shavers in higher regards than Tyson in the field of power punching and I'll take their opinion over any argument anyone here has proposed on this thread so far.
      Nice pic, Kid and I agree with you. NEver knew you were into horses.

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      • catskills23
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        #123
        Originally posted by Kid Achilles
        This thread isn't worth the time we've invested in it. We almost universally recognize Shavers as a harder puncher than Tyson and we have many reasons for doing this. The diminished effect his punches had on opponents once he lost his defensive style that enabled him to throw sneaky, lightning fast counter-punches (granted he still hit hard after that point, but nothing like Shavers), the testimony of his opponents who usually had guys like Ruddock and Morrison hitting harder, and finally the fact that if he truly hit as hard as Shavers, while having the skills and quickness he possessed, he would have been actually killing guys.

        At the end of the day, the consensus of opinion of boxing historians who devote their lives to the study of this sport holds Shavers in higher regards than Tyson in the field of power punching and I'll take their opinion over any argument anyone here has proposed on this thread so far.
        you talk as if you want you say is factual . Remember its just opinion that you think shavers punches harder than tyson . You have no actual facts to prove it . Relying on what a fighter say about another fighters power is not evidence .

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        • beez721
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          #124
          Originally posted by catskills23
          you talk as if you want you say is factual . Remember its just opinion that you think shavers punches harder than tyson . You have no actual facts to prove it . Relying on what a fighter say about another fighters power is not evidence .
          lol,,,of course there's no way of proving it but he totally backs his opinions up with good arguments unlike you. its pretty obvious that shavers hit harder. can it be proven? no,,,,but with testimony from other fighters and just watching the way they both delivered there punches and the impact shows that more likely than not,,shavers hit harder. your saying going by what other fighters say means nothing yet watching from the outside means more?? when a fighter who fought both says shavers hit harder and most if not all boxing experts think the same thing then the evidence is pretty strong. give it up already

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          • The Noose
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            #125
            Originally posted by catskills23
            you talk as if you want you say is factual . Remember its just opinion that you think shavers punches harder than tyson . You have no actual facts to prove it . Relying on what a fighter say about another fighters power is not evidence .
            Your hypocrisy is amazing. :wank: :wank:

            Originally posted by catskills23
            tyson didnt have great power you are a moron. tysons sparring partners know all about his power . mo harris said he hit harder than lewis. timor ibragimov said nobody had tysons power other sparring partners have said he hit harder than lewis,tua bowe the whole lot . one guy said tyson hit him so hard with a body shot that it felt like tysons fist had being dislodged in his stomach . he couldnt spar for week and the pain was unbearable. Al these gus sparred with tyson late in his career when tyson had lost his speed. .

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            • hemichromis
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              #126
              shavers was almost certainly the hardest hitter ever to enter the ring his power was greater than foreman's lyle's or any other heavy i can think of

              tyson was a more complete fighter with deadly accurate quick punchers and very scared opponents.

              i would even say bruno hit harder than tyson

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                #127
                Originally posted by hemichromis
                shavers was almost certainly the hardest hitter ever to enter the ring his power was greater than foreman's lyle's or any other heavy i can think of

                tyson was a more complete fighter with deadly accurate quick punchers and very scared opponents.

                i would even say bruno hit harder than tyson
                you would. but you would be wrong.

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